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I'll weigh in on this one too. I'm not sure whether to just yank all my stuff off of there - IUMA's going to live again, thanks to being purchased by vitaminic.com - and there are loads of places now to post one's MP3 files without having to put up with this Old Record Biz crap. ArtistLaunch.com is another one. I think an even better site for visibility aspects might be live365.com - which lets you run a radio 'station' of sorts. What would someone go through to put up a Loopers Delight radio station on live365.com then? I'm sure it would generate interest at least. But my query has more to do with, Do we all yank our material off and tell them why? Why not? A great (and uncommonly existent) interview with Ray Davies in last week's London Times' "Culture" magazine, where he says that "It's still just a spiv business," and I have to admit, after studying the "Enable Your Music" scam that mp3.com's running, he's more than right, alas. I've been told several times that its nickname's becoming "DISable Your Music," given the usury-level percentages they want if they get placement for your music on TV or film/video. I came across a similar scam for software/hardware test this week - from a bunch that advertised on a jobs board. One went through a series of questions about what one would be willing to do as a tester, like receive product instead of pay on occasion (the most dubious, frankly, up to this point it seemed legit). Then the next page pops up in the "test", and asks if you'd be willing to PAY $9.95 for the privilege of being able to do this EACH time! Yumpin' Yesus, what some scum will do to people looking for work. So do we yank our material and tell mp3.com to screw off? (notice the lack of an mp3.com url in my sig) Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week!