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hi a little bit the same. i have a larger proportional score for 22 proportional loops i put together after a period of kandinsky adoration. was hoping to get the feedback from those of a circular mindset. if anyone is interested i'm thinking of throwing it to the wind to see where... it'd be nice if it weren't only the leaves in confines of my mind making noise with it. the 22 loops could easily accomodate 22 loopers. imagine...sorry. grand schematics i know, but feel free to contact me if you want any info. maybe i could set it out in parts on the list for anyone interested? michael