Re: looping with a Vocoder

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Goddess" <thefates@earthlink.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: looping with a Vocoder


>   -Just curious, does anyone know how many bands the electrix vocoder 
>has?
>
> Thanks,
>
> G
>
> At 04:00 PM 6/14/01 +0200, you wrote:
> > Yeah,a real fine topic for LD !
> >
> >I use since five years an analog Vocoder/Filterbank as an extraordinary
> >effectdevice in my Setup.
> >Most people think about a Vocoder,that it is a tool to make Robotvoices
> >based on a Saw-wave.
> >To difference my usage from this public prejudice,I call this device 
>just
> >VCA controlled Filterbank.
> >It is very flexible to use for filtering or selected Filterband
> >distortion(if it is analog).
> >It can realize Pseudophasing effects,Filtersweeps,Singlebanddistortion
and
> >so much more.
> >And at least you can use it as an pseudo EQ,based on the Formants of the
> >humans voice.As the Filters
> >are working very sharp,it has a different quality to "normal" EQs.
> >Use a Sinewave pitchshifting over a a space about +/- 4 octaves(a Casio
VZ1
> >offers such a strong
> >modulation for example).Then you can hear how a really narrow bandwith 
>of
> >overtones will be faded in
> >and out.Really a fine Filtersweep simulation.
> >Mostly I use the Vocoder not for extreme effects.
> >
> >For my Livesetup I use an analog MAMVF11.Not the Ultima Ratio,but works
OK
> >and can be adjusted fast
> >in a Live situation.In STudio I use a Software 22Band Vocoder wich is
> >softwarebased.
> >Both solutions are OK,but will not make me say that they are great.
> >For the future I hope,that there will be a Vocoder/Filterbank,wich can 
>be
> >adjusted easily like my
> >analog one,but has a fine soundquality(without the analog noise) and a
wider
> >spreaded Filterband.
> >Maybe 48 Bands.
> >
> >Nevertheless,the Vocoder/Filterbank is a very important part of my Setup
!
> >And like Rick I never
> >used the "ROBOT"-function of this device.Hmmmmmmmm...? Maybe only to
amuse
> >my little son and
> >nephews on a birthday party. :-)
> >
> >A Vocoder/Filterbank is a great tool to shape a sound.So I only 
>recommend
it
> >!
> >
> >
> >Marty
> >
> >
> >----------
> >>Von: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" <GLOBAL@cruzio.com>
> >>An: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> >>Betreff: Re: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder
> >>Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 8:58 Uhr
> >>
> >
> >>Nope, Simran,   my glitch was caused by turning up the robot pitch knob
> >>(I should have know that buying ANYTHING with a robot pitch knob was
> >>getting me on to thin ice).   This introduces a sine wave, believe and
it is
> >>incredibly touchy.
> >>Good luck.  I love my vocoder for looping or affecting loops once they
are
> >>running.   You can sweep up the overtone series with your voice, turn 
>on
the
> >>freeze formant knob and then release it at the end of your 'solo' 
>whilst
you
> >>sweep down the overtone series with your voice.   Taking synth pads
> >>and vocoding them with drum machine patterns or loops is very, very 
>cool
as
> >>well.  I have yet to use the 'classic' vocoder voice sound (and 
>probably
may
> >>never since I am cliche phobic).
> >>
> >>Later,  Rick
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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