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Re: looping with a Vocoder

  -Just curious, does anyone know how many bands the electrix vocoder has? 



At 04:00 PM 6/14/01 +0200, you wrote:
> Yeah,a real fine topic for LD ! 
>I use since five years an analog Vocoder/Filterbank as an extraordinary
>effectdevice in my Setup.
>Most people think about a Vocoder,that it is a tool to make Robotvoices
>based on a Saw-wave.
>To difference my usage from this public prejudice,I call this device just
>VCA controlled Filterbank.
>It is very flexible to use for filtering or selected Filterband
>distortion(if it is analog).
>It can realize Pseudophasing effects,Filtersweeps,Singlebanddistortion and
>so much more.
>And at least you can use it as an pseudo EQ,based on the Formants of the
>humans voice.As the Filters
>are working very sharp,it has a different quality to "normal" EQs.
>Use a Sinewave pitchshifting over a a space about +/- 4 octaves(a Casio 
>offers such a strong
>modulation for example).Then you can hear how a really narrow bandwith of
>overtones will be faded in 
>and out.Really a fine Filtersweep simulation.
>Mostly I use the Vocoder not for extreme effects.
>For my Livesetup I use an analog MAMVF11.Not the Ultima Ratio,but works OK
>and can be adjusted fast
>in a Live situation.In STudio I use a Software 22Band Vocoder wich is
>Both solutions are OK,but will not make me say that they are great.
>For the future I hope,that there will be a Vocoder/Filterbank,wich can be
>adjusted easily like my 
>analog one,but has a fine soundquality(without the analog noise) and a 
>spreaded Filterband.
>Maybe 48 Bands.
>Nevertheless,the Vocoder/Filterbank is a very important part of my Setup !
>And like Rick I never
>used the "ROBOT"-function of this device.Hmmmmmmmm...? Maybe only to amuse
>my little son and 
>nephews on a birthday party. :-)
>A Vocoder/Filterbank is a great tool to shape a sound.So I only recommend 
>>Von: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" <GLOBAL@cruzio.com>
>>An: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>Betreff: Re: Simran Gleason, looping with a Vocoder
>>Datum: Don, 14. Jun 2001 8:58 Uhr
>>Nope, Simran,   my glitch was caused by turning up the robot pitch knob
>>(I should have know that buying ANYTHING with a robot pitch knob was
>>getting me on to thin ice).   This introduces a sine wave, believe and 
>it is
>>incredibly touchy.
>>Good luck.  I love my vocoder for looping or affecting loops once they 
>>running.   You can sweep up the overtone series with your voice, turn on 
>>freeze formant knob and then release it at the end of your 'solo' whilst 
>>sweep down the overtone series with your voice.   Taking synth pads
>>and vocoding them with drum machine patterns or loops is very, very cool 
>>well.  I have yet to use the 'classic' vocoder voice sound (and probably 
>>never since I am cliche phobic).
>>Later,  Rick


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