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At 01:23 PM 9/10/2001, you wrote: >so much for that theory... > >kim, you said repeater always sends midi clock. >does it do this even if it is set to synch to midi? ok, I checked this further. Yes Repeater always sends midi clock out it's output even when it is in Midi Sync mode, where you would expect it only receives midi clock. In Midi Sync mode the clock it sends out is not a direct pass-through of the input clock either. It is related to Repeater's tempo. I was curious what happens then when you change tempos. The repeater tempo doesn't directly follow the input clock, ramps at it's own rate to the new tempo. So if you make a radical tempo jump on your midi clock master, Repeater will ramp there and can take quite a bit longer to reach the new tempo, especially if you are slowing down. since tempos of repeater and other devices are different during this ramp, they end up completely out of sync when repeater finally settles to the new tempo. So that's not real useful. The repeater midi clock output during this tempo change ramps with the repeater's tempo. Or at least, that's what it seems like they wanted it to do. Actually it jumps all over the place while repeater is ramping in tempo, so my drum sequence sounds like a drummer that just got hit with a beer bottle during this time. It's kinda nuts. when Repeater finally settles on the tempo, the clock straightens out to a regular pulse (except the 23rd one :-). of course, now the midi device after the repeater is slipped in time from the device before the repeater, so you will have to restart everything to line it up again. I guess this is why I saw a number of instances on the electrix forum where they were recommending to use midi thru for devices down stream of Repeater. :-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com