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I personally hope/believe that things like prayer, meditation, making a special loop and letting it run- possibly help to create order on sub-atomic levels etc- which can have far reaching effects- however subtle they may be- Although the loop itself in RAM may not be doing much (or it may- who knows) the mental effect of your knowing about it etc may be the more obvious effect- like group prayer no matter what religon may create the same positive results- I think of the Olympic Flame etc as an example in a way- knowing the flame is alive has an effect on our physiology- which has an effect on the universe- I think these ideas are subtle to the extreme- but I like them anyway- the more I learn about physics the more I believe. Funny- I think Einstein and the rest expressed a heightened spiritual element in their lives as a result of all the science they were involved in I think- Maybe the possibilities I see in science/physics are advancing to the point where they could support ideas like prayer helping people far away etc. I know the loops I have running at home are good for me- maybe in turn that spreads good farther than myself- a nice thought regardless of your beliefs- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "petr" <petr@tryi.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: Re: OT - 9-11-01 -- looping prayers > > Or how about we all donate a pint of blood if we really want to > help. I > > think that would be a lot more appreciated. Kevin > > *** You mean *only* *appreciated*, not *objectively* *helpful*, right? > Otherwise I would love to know how one can evaluate physical touchable > versus spiritual invisible help. > > I actually am thinking a lot about looping positive energy, verbal or > otherwise. Any feelings about this? It seems to me that in fact > making a loop containing a positive energy, although then kept > mechanically running, could be seen in the same way as engraving > sacred symbols into a rock, making icons, or whatever else in this > realm. > > petr > >