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snippit - -----Original Message----- From: Damon Langlois (Electrix) <Damon@Electrixpro.com> To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:29 PM Subject: RE: Bump issue. >We are looking at reducing the "bump" at the loop splice point. Going >immediately into overdub is a bigger deal but is also being looked at. >This >is the price you might have to pay for 4 tracks per loop. There is a lot >more going on under the hood than a mono looper. >Let us also put things into perspective. "Blemish free" drones where a >contiguous signal passes over the loop point are not really possible with >any looper. (Get your sine waves out and try it). It's a matter of making it >less audible which is where the multiple overdub technique come in. We >want >to look at the loop splice point first and see if we can improve this area >before we get into the immediate overdub issue, especially since there are >work arounds for this. Respect, > >Damon Langlois >Creative Director >Electrix >Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 >http://www.electrixpro.com > Damon - No offense intended but have you ever tried an EDP? I;ve got two at my place, I would suggest you try them out in stereo if you haven't already and you may better understand what some folks on the list are trying to explain, not only is it possible to get neat loops, it's been happening for somer time now. I understand you're dealing with four tracks and stereo and pitch and and and, well what good is all that if it doesn't do something as simple as record and play back what you are intending to loop? I've got a RPTR, thankfully I didn't buy it for its looping capabilities (to me that was (is) an unkown, as it doesn't loop, it records what you do and then some which makes it impossibly hard to make a sharp loop from the outset). I bought the RPTR cause everything said it was good at mashing up loops and it does that very very well, so Bravo and continued success on that end. Now for my only suggestion to ya'll is: Call the RPTR what it is, whatever you decide it is and maybe angle away from all this loop talk, because in that regard the RPTR simply does not cut it (very much my opinion, but that what you get when you sell products :) The RPTR is also not a delay unit in any real way, ask a looper what a loop is and nine times out of ten (at least i'd hope) they would use the word delay somewhere in their explaination even if it is missapplied, the RPTR doesn't get into all that, because it's a lot closer to a sampler (with a few glitches and bugs) than any type of delay unit. Good hearted laughter on my part Damon, I know you folks must be going through lots to get everything done as quickly and professionally as possible and I think you've done a bang up jop, the RPTR came out before it should have, but we wouldn't wait and we were warned. PedrOOrdeP PS: I would have preferred to have waited another year for a RPTR that actually loops (that may still be a cool thing, it's just not what Electrix makes right now). oh and you're making ambient a dirty word!, but I think we've all done that at some time or another! >