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Yup, identical power stages. We weren't very successful with these early Guitar amps as they were a bit unconventional and very expensive. It wasn't until the Speedtwin valve range that we had world class guitar amps at fair prices. Glad you've been happy with the G-PA160 for 10 years. -----Original Message----- From: Nic Roozeboom [mailto:nicroozeboom@hotmail.com] Sent: 16 February 2002 19:40 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: trace elliot road 160 head The characteristics & specs resembles a lot the G-PA160s I have, a dual-space rackmount solid-state reactor power stage 2x80W for guitar. Very clear indeed, as little coloring (in my estimation) as I've been able to find. And indeed can be dangerously loud - I'm constantly fishing for the right level setting in the very low end of the range of the level pots. I think Trace Elliot only made a brief foray into this type of equipment before finding its niche again w/ bass & acoustic amplification? Pity, I'm extremely fond of it, have been for the 10-odd years I've owned it. At the time, I chose it over the Marshall Valvestate for a more all-round and versatile sound. Nic >From: "Andy Ewen" <andy.ewen@btinternet.com> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: "LD mailing list" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Subject: RE: trace elliot road 160 head >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:39:11 -0000 > > > Yes, > Good amps, very reliable. TVT9 is an all-tube twin channel pre-amp with >an >EM84 illuminated gate tube to show saturation, (like the early Selmer >amps). > Output stages are unusual, in that they are Hitachi K135 MOSFETS >driving >valve-style output transformers. This gives a rich second-harmonic >distortion. > The amp is not super-high gain so will not be for everyone, but the >clean >sound is very clear up to silly volumes. That's the other thing, these >amps >are incredibly loud! 2 x 80Watts RMS, which is a bit overkill for lead >guitar in my opinion and liable to damage eardrums if you're not careful. > They were very expensive, so if it's a good deal, I can recommend it. >The >G-Series pre-amps, which were also available at the time were far too >complex, so I wouldn't recommend them, (loads of relays which fail). The >TVT9 however is simple, using cheap ECC83/12AX7 valves and the output >stages >are pretty much indestructible. Ritchie Sambora used these for a few years >when Trace was part of Kaman Music. > If you want, I can mail the operating instructions in PDF, > > Andy, > ex-Trace Elliot R&D manager. > > > > Original Message----- > From: one less than none [mailto:onelessthannone@blueyonder.co.uk] > Sent: 15 February 2002 20:05 > To: LD mailing list > Subject: trace elliot road 160 head > > > is anyone familiar with these amp heads ?? > i have seen one on ebay > 2 x 80 watt power sections and TVT9 preamp > but i cant find any info on it, trace eliiot are not being much help > > has anyone ever used one ?? > > thanks > > David > > one less than none > http://www.onelessthannone.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.