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I agree- the key being that with the TR-626, 505, and others you can program the pads to send whatever Midi note you want- I guess if there is a drum machine that can be programmed to send CC or PC messages with their pads that would be trick as hell- I'm stoked on the idea of having a compact and inexpensive hand controller for the EDP/Rptr- and will continue to research this idea. As for the visual aesthetic- it really helps to see what is being done- I discussed this with some people at SLO about having a video camera trained on the performer's rig with a screen behind so you could take in more of the entire performance- I tried to turn mine sideways to allow at least some in the audience to see that part- it is like seeing something live as opposed to recorded- there is so much more to appreciate with the performer's live and easier with traditional instruments like guitar etc. but much more challenging with things like the EDP- I think Jon bridged this gap a bit with his custom EDP trigger pads above his snare- you could really see what was happening with him catching loops etc- I can see a dramatic extension of this idea if you made triggers with lights or made them extra large- a "Simon Says" game might work nicely- the one after the first generation that had like 6 or 8 rectangular buttons- hmm- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre LaFosse" <altruist@altruistmusic.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Loopstock aftershock - gestural control > One thing I like about the drum machine idea is that it's an extremely > basic MIDI task, which could almost certainly be applied with any $50 > pawn shop drum machine in town. (The one I was using was already > "obsolete" when I bought it back in 1988). So it's not a serious drag > to have to worry about the approach being based on one > expensive/esoteric controller. > > I wonder how easy it would be to send program change data from a drum > machine, in order to control a Repeater in an elegant real-time >manner...? > > > It's been somewhere between a liberating discipline and a cumbersome > > drag to "perform" the Eventides with just the front panel keypads and > > soft knob, but I haven't been doing enough gigs to make interface > > building a pressing matter. > > I gotta say that seeing what you were doing definitely increased my > appreciation of your set at the gig. It all SOUNDED great, but when I > actually walked over to the side of the stage and looked over your > shoulder, it FELT more like a performance, you know? I found myself > sort of missing that aspect in some of the other sets that night; I was > loving the way things sounded, but wishing that I could engage it in a > visual sense as well. > > I know Torn has talked a lot about wanting to find ways of implementing > visual, gestural parameter commands in a performance context, in order > to help draw the audience into the process. I got the feeling last > night that the drum machine interface was helping in that respect: I > could very visibly reach over and hit a button, and suddenly the loop(s) > would change in a really obvious way. > > --Andre LaFosse > http://www.altruistmusic.com >