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> > i've started checking out people using the gear > and > > i've even gone to one open NY loop thing (and plan > to > > attend and perform at these in weeks to come) and > the > > main dissappointing thing that i've noticed amoung > > musicians who use the gear is the lack of > musicality. > > Unfortunately I'll be out of town and can't check > you out strutting your stuff @ open loop till 5/11. > Let's see how f*cking talented you are after playing > bass > for 10 years. Bring a fretless bass Jaco. okay, i never claimed to be jaco or even the second coming of jaco...if you read my post you would clearly see that my complaint was not that loopers can't play their instruments, but rather, what i've seen and heard (which by no means represents the looping population) is more of people turning nobs and pushing buttons and not making music (which i guess the definition of music can be interpretted differently by everyone)...i've also seen some people doing some pretty sick stuff with these devices and i even spoke to those individuals at the open loop to get a bit of insight on exactly what they are doing and how they are doing it...but as someone trying to learn about this stuff...entering this community recently...i've been kind of dissappointed in the fact that many people are trading off the overall sound to mess with buttons and switches...that's all. if you are interested in hearing me play or listening to the music that i write, or even jamming, i'm always down, but don't think that i'm trying to come off as some hot shot just because i expressed my opinions and posed an interesting question to the list (and I’m sorry if I offended you, but there is a large population of people who are far more concerned with gear than musicality and I guess I was just curious where people on this list stand – hey if everyone is just an audiophile, great, I’ve found THE source for getting gear reviews and recommendations)...and if you are threatened by someone who has been making music for an extended period of time (I’m sure that to the bulk of this list, 10 years is nothing) and think that that makes me think that I am better than anyone else, then that is your own issue. If you are doing ground breaking stuff with this gear, then I want to hear it (inspire me, influence me)…having just recently started playing with loops, I’m just trying to find people out there that I can learn from …show me that you didn’t just spend money on some fancy gear and that you are actually using it to create something. Out of curiosity, what is more important to you? the music that you are creating or what your gear is doing? And if you really want to challenge my abilities as a bassist, then name your place, name your time, and I’ll happily come by with my bass to play…but if I do impress you, I certainly hope that you will be a little bit more reserved in challenging someone’s abilities (which I’m still not sure why you suddenly jumped down my throat inferring that I think that I’m jaco) that you nothing about. And if I don’t impress you, that’s okay too…I’ll even apologize to the list for sharing the info that I’ve decided to try to take my music to a new level by incorporating some gear…sheesh…I’ll never understand the hostility associated with list-serves, but sure, why not…challenge accepted. Drop an email off list and we can find a mutually convenient time to get together to jam or have a musical duel or whatever…I’m in new york as I assume you are as well…and I hold no hostility towards you, but your post really sparked my interest to hear what you can do with your gear and your instrument(s)… Perplexed at the hostility and challenge, but accepting… evan evanmeyers@yahoo.com ps. I hope its okay, but I tend to play fretted bass over fretless by personal choice, but I do have a homemade fretless with frets pulled out ala jaco style (but it is a piece of crap and sounds like a toys r’ us bass) > > > * David Beardsley > * http://biink.com > * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley. > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/