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----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Meyers" <evanmeyers@yahoo.com> > > > i've started checking out people using the gear and > > > i've even gone to one open NY loop thing (and plan to > > > attend and perform at these in weeks to come) and the > > > main dissappointing thing that i've noticed amoung > > > musicians who use the gear is the lack of > > musicality. > > > > Unfortunately I'll be out of town and can't check > > you out strutting your stuff @ open loop till 5/11. > > Let's see how f*cking talented you are after playing > > bass > > for 10 years. Bring a fretless bass Jaco. > > okay, i never claimed to be jaco or even the second > coming of jaco...if you read my post you would clearly > see that my complaint was not that loopers can't play > their instruments, but rather, what i've seen and > heard (which by no means represents the looping > population) is more of people turning nobs and pushing > buttons and not making music You specifically wrote (about NYC's open loop): > > i've started checking out people using the gear and > > i've even gone to one open NY loop thing (and plan to > > attend and perform at these in weeks to come) and >the main dissappointing thing that i've noticed amoung > > > musicians who use the gear is the lack of > > musicality. Pretty damm cocky. You dam well better be able to be "musical". > if you are interested in hearing me play or listening > to the music that i write, or even jamming, i'm always > down, Not really interested at all at this point.... > but don't think that i'm trying to come off as > some hot shot Fooled me! > just because i expressed my opinions and > posed an interesting question to the list (and I'm > sorry if I offended you, but there is a large > population of people who are far more concerned with > gear than musicality and I guess I was just curious > where people on this list stand - hey if everyone is > just an audiophile, great, I've found THE source for > getting gear reviews and recommendations) >...and if you > are threatened by someone who has been making music > for an extended period of time (I'm sure that to the > bulk of this list, 10 years is nothing) and think that > that makes me think that I am better than anyone else, > then that is your own issue. Threatened? You insulted the folks that play every week at open loop. My point was that 10 years IS nothing. >If you are doing ground > breaking stuff with this gear, then I want to hear it > (inspire me, influence me).having just recently > started playing with loops, I'm just trying to find > people out there that I can learn from .show me that > you didn't just spend money on some fancy gear and > that you are actually using it to create something. > Out of curiosity, what is more important to you? the > music that you are creating or what your gear is > doing? And if you really want to challenge my > abilities as a bassist, then name your place, name > your time, and I'll happily come by with my bass to > play.but if I do impress you, I certainly hope that > you will be a little bit more reserved in challenging > someone's abilities (which I'm still not sure why you > suddenly jumped down my throat inferring that I think > that I'm jaco) that you nothing about. And if I don't > impress you, that's okay too.I'll even apologize to > the list for sharing the info that I've decided to try > to take my music to a new level by incorporating some > gear.sheesh.I'll never understand the hostility > associated with list-serves, but sure, why > not.challenge accepted. Music is more important to me, so I would be insulted when you say that the folks at open loop are not musical. > Drop an email off list and we can find a mutually > convenient time to get together to jam or have a > musical duel or whatever.I'm in new york as I assume > you are as well.and I hold no hostility towards you, > but your post really sparked my interest to hear what > you can do with your gear and your instrument(s). Nah...you wouldn't want to do that....us folks at open loop are too unmusical to hang with the likes of you. > Perplexed at the hostility and challenge, but > accepting. > evan > evanmeyers@yahoo.com > > ps. I hope its okay, but I tend to play fretted bass > over fretless by personal choice, but I do have a > homemade fretless with frets pulled out ala jaco style > (but it is a piece of crap and sounds like a toys r' > us bass) Whatever... * David Beardsley * http://biink.com * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley