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Re: musicality vs. gear quality (was Re: loop mud)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Evan Meyers" <evanmeyers@yahoo.com>

> > > i've started checking out people using the gear and
> > > i've even gone to one open NY loop thing (and plan to
> > > attend and perform at these in weeks to come) and the
> > > main dissappointing thing that i've noticed amoung
> > > musicians who use the gear is the lack of
> > musicality.
> > 
> > Unfortunately I'll be out of town and can't check
> > you out strutting your stuff @ open loop till 5/11.
> > Let's see how f*cking talented you are after playing
> > bass
> > for 10 years. Bring a fretless bass Jaco.
> 
> okay, i never claimed to be jaco or even the second
> coming of jaco...if you read my post you would clearly
> see that my complaint was not that loopers can't play
> their instruments, but rather, what i've seen and
> heard (which by no means represents the looping
> population) is more of people turning nobs and pushing
> buttons and not making music 

You specifically wrote (about NYC's open loop):

> > i've started checking out people using the gear and
> > i've even gone to one open NY loop thing (and plan to
> > attend and perform at these in weeks to come) and
>the main dissappointing thing that i've noticed amoung
> > > musicians who use the gear is the lack of
> > musicality.

Pretty damm cocky. You dam well better be able
to be "musical".


> if you are interested in hearing me play or listening
> to the music that i write, or even jamming, i'm always
> down, 

Not really interested at all at this point....

> but don't think that i'm trying to come off as
> some hot shot 

Fooled me!

> just because i expressed my opinions and
> posed an interesting question to the list (and I'm
> sorry if I offended you, but there is a large
> population of people who are far more concerned with
> gear than musicality and I guess I was just curious
> where people on this list stand - hey if everyone is
> just an audiophile, great, I've found THE source for
> getting gear reviews and recommendations)


>...and if you
> are threatened by someone who has been making music
> for an extended period of time (I'm sure that to the
> bulk of this list, 10 years is nothing) and think that
> that makes me think that I am better than anyone else,
> then that is your own issue.  

Threatened? You insulted the folks that play every week
at open loop. My point was that 10 years IS nothing.


>If you are doing ground
> breaking stuff with this gear, then I want to hear it
> (inspire me, influence me).having just recently
> started playing with loops, I'm just trying to find
> people out there that I can learn from .show me that
> you didn't just spend money on some fancy gear and
> that you are actually using it to create something.

> Out of curiosity, what is more important to you?  the
> music that you are creating or what your gear is
> doing?  And if you really want to challenge my
> abilities as a bassist, then name your place, name
> your time, and I'll happily come by with my bass to
> play.but if I do impress you, I certainly hope that
> you will be a little bit more reserved in challenging
> someone's abilities (which I'm still not sure why you
> suddenly jumped down my throat inferring that I think
> that I'm jaco) that you nothing about.  And if I don't
> impress you, that's okay too.I'll even apologize to
> the list for sharing the info that I've decided to try
> to take my music to a new level by incorporating some
> gear.sheesh.I'll never understand the hostility
> associated with list-serves, but sure, why
> not.challenge accepted.

Music is more important to me, so I would be insulted 
when you say that the folks at open loop are not musical.

 
> Drop an email off list and we can find a mutually
> convenient time to get together to jam or have a
> musical duel or whatever.I'm in new york as I assume
> you are as well.and I hold no hostility towards you,
> but your post really sparked my interest to hear what
> you can do with your gear and your instrument(s).

Nah...you wouldn't want to do that....us folks
at open loop are too unmusical to hang with the likes of you.


> Perplexed at the hostility and challenge, but
> accepting.
> evan
> evanmeyers@yahoo.com
> 
> ps. I hope its okay, but I tend to play fretted bass
> over fretless by personal choice, but I do have a
> homemade fretless with frets pulled out ala jaco style
> (but it is a piece of crap and sounds like a toys r'
> us bass)

Whatever...

* David Beardsley
* http://biink.com
* http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley