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The good/bad thing about the RC-20 is that you have unlimited recording time so you don't reach a preset wall and then go into overdub mode (not sure if Repeaters and EDP's do this but older samplers you had to preset the amount of time you wanted to sample). The bad thing is that you have to stop then start again to play but then can go into overdub seamlessly if needed. -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@loopers-delight.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:19 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: new to list- repeater question Evan- I think the original question was about the Repeater having a bump with sustained notes over the loop boundary, not the RC-20. I haven't tried this in a while with the Repeater but I do remember hearing such a problem with it. (did they fix that with the upgrade? I can't remember...) As I remembered it, you would get it even after the initial loop record, when just overdubbing through the startpoint of the loop. I don't know how the RC-20 handles these loop boundary cases. The technique you describe below might minimize it some, but it definitely wouldn't fix such a problem. They really have to do something in hardware/software specifically for this loop boundary case to avoid it. (zero-crossing, cross-fading, etc.) I would be interested to know if the rc-20 actually does do anything like that, can anybody tell? Also, in the RC-20, is it possible to go directly from recording the initial loop to overdubbing on top of it? kim At 08:51 AM 4/23/2002, Evan Meyers wrote: >the only bumps that you could be encountering (which >i've seen people questioning concerning the repeater >and other loop devices) are those of your own foot >stomping. here's a test for you to try to see if you >still get the bumps...play a single note and let it >ring out...while it is ringing, step on the switch to >record your loop...then, while it is still ringing, >press the switch that starts looping the loop...if you >hear a bump, then it could just be that your rc-20 is >messed up or the rc-20's in general are messed up >--- "Reid, Benjamin" <BReid@about-inc.com> wrote: > > is it a technique? I get the bump with the RC-20 > > which I thought was a > > shortcoming of the machine, but if there are tips, > > I'd love to learn :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Evan Meyers [mailto:evanmeyers@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:01 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: new to list- repeater question > > > > > > > So my question- is the repeater capable of > > creating > > > seemless loops live? I > > > would like to do ambient looping in stereo. > > > > 100% yes...at times, i get a bump in my loops, but > > those go away with practice... > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > > http://games.yahoo.com/ > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more >http://games.yahoo.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com