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--- "Liebig, Steuart A." <Steuart.Liebig@maritz.com> wrote: > this issue is always gonna create some friction. > > i think the problem is that one person's "musicality" can be another > person's "lame-ass crap." Music is inherently subjective. To one person John Zorn was a brilliant artist, to another, he just made noise. Added to the subjectivity the fact that many of us in the looping community are doing "music" that's not too conventional and we're probably always open to the criticism that what we do "just isn't music". To the person who's grid only contains the verse-chorus-bridge pop song, virtually everything I attempt to do would be "crap" or "background noise". > someone can think that he/she is exploring interesting new sonic > frontiers > or methods of musical creation and another will think that it's just > mindless wanking. I totally agree. > also, my reading of the initial post leads me to feel that there are > two contradictory wishes: one is that evan wants people to really > "delve" into > the gear in a "meaningful way," two is that he felt bummed when he > saw people "twiddling knobs" - - which sounds a lot like people > delving into > their gear and "playing it like an instrument." maybe they are doing > it, but the results don't work for you (?). That's what it sounds like to me. As far as where I land on the "gear vs music" scale. My approach to my personal music is almost entirely intuitive. I use gear to give me inspiring sounds and textures and to provide me a background to further inspire further improvisation. So, to a person who prefers a fixed compositional approach or a pop song approach, what I do may not be appealing. I feed off of playing to other sounds, so having a background is important to keep me from playing the "same old things". I like playing with other musicians, but it's hard collecting the right people to do something unorthadox, and they aren't often available to fit in my busy schedule. So, in the absense of like-minded musicians who happen to be at my house whenever I happen to have a spare hour or so (usually unplanned), a Repeater gives me the opportunity to do something I enjoy and to create something I wouldn't have if I hadn't had something to play over. I don't buy gear to "have gear", it's not a status symbol to me. Other then the Repeater, my entire looping guitar rig was thrown together out of stuff I had laying around and things friends gave me. I'm in the process of refining the gear I'm using based on what I've learned about what I like and what inspires me. I can't objectively say whether what I do is "good music" or not. Based on Evan's comments, it sounds like what I do probably wouldn't be very interesting to him. That's ok. I got into this with the clear understanding that what I'm doing wouldn't have a wide audience. This allows me the freedom to make whatever music/noise that I make without worrying about what anyone else thinks of it. I believe in my heart that if I like it, then there are probably other people out there somewhere who would also like it, but I don't have any expectation that most people would. So far, this has proven to be a true acessment of the situation. Of the people I've played my music for (other musicians), most have been fairly uninterested, but one of my friends was VERY excieted about it. He even wanted to get involved. I truly love doing it, and that's what's most important to me right now. If it can appeal to someone else on the same level, it's all the more wonderful. At some point, I will probably seek an audience (in Robert Fripp's words "subject myself to public ridicule" <grin>), but for now, I'm content to make noises in my basement. Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/