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<<>I wish Zappa held that revered position, and therefore I heard more people talking about him. In my humble opinion, his approach to music and guitar playing specifically - was a thing of great beauty... and of course, controversy. > >I just wish he had lived long enough to get his hands on an EDP (or 2). Something tells me that most of us wouldn't be the same. > I suspect Frank looped exactly as much as he wanted to. If he'd wanted to loop more, he had the equipment to do it.>> This is true. Frank most certainly could have gotten his hands on an E-H 16 Second Delay, for instance, if he was interested in such things. I know on the Guitar album, there's a track that ends with him making this crazy whammy bar noise, which he then loops, then layers a second loop on top of it. That was actually one of the first things I heard that really got me interested in looping (that and Fripp's Let The Power Fall, Torn's Cloud About Mercury). But I think it was something Frank really didn't get into the way someone like Fripp or Torn did. Fair enough. Frank Zappa is one of my favorite guitarists. He some of the most amazing guitar tones (especially during the early 80's), and he had a really amazing melodic sense and played stuff that was pretty crazy rhythmically. He once said one of his problems as a band leader (apart from finding guys who could cover all the styles he wanted he incorporated into his music, who could play the insane written stuff he came up with and weren't impossible to deal with) was finding a rhythm section that could follow when he improvised. If he had a less than adequate rhythm section, it forced him to play a certain way that bent towards what the drummer and bassist could do. He said the reason he could do the stuff that was on the Shut Up N Play Yer Guitar set was because he had Vinnie Calutia drumming with the band that played on most of it (I suppose, therefore, that Guitar sounds the way it does because had Chad Wackerman on most of it). I think any serious rock guitar junkie owes it to him or herself to check out Guitar, One Size Fits All, the entire You Can't Do That Onstage Anymore set, Shut Up N Play Yer Guitar, and Them Or Us. And Joe's Garage is essential listening, if for no other reason than for the studio version of Watermelon In Easter Hay, which is one of the most stunning guitar instrumentals I've heard. I don't particularly like the guitar tones he had on his earlier records (Hot Rats is an AMAZING record, but his guitar sounds like it's coming out of a speaker made out of wet cardboard, and it's not just the wah wah pedal either), but even there, he had some stunning stuff that's worth hearing. Burnt Weenie Sandwich is another favorite. ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris "What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?"-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com