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Re: Looping is overrated :)



I suppose pens and pencils are 'geeky' to some too.  But some folks sure
make great art with those tools as well!  Go figure!

----- Original Message -----
From: "savior-onasis" <savior-onasis@kc.rr.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 14:48 PM
Subject: Re: Looping is overrated :)


> "Let's face it, looping and looping tools are pretty damn geeky
> as a rule. We don't do this for the money or glamour..."
>
> Now you tell me! ;-)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Legion" <legion@helpwantedproductions.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:47 PM
> Subject: Looping is overrated :)
>
>
> > OK forgive the baiting title but there is a point to this. From all the
> > recent discussions on moving to somewhere else because the "loop
> > community" seems stronger, to Loopfests and such I felt I had to pipe
> > up.
> >
> > The greatest music I have heard from loopers (from  the Looper's 
>Delight
> > CDs to recommendations in posting from Phil Keaggy to David Zorn) seems
> > to me to be good *despite* looping, not because of it. Now don't get me
> > wrong, I am all for looping and looping tools, and repetition, and
> > messing with sound backwards, sideways, and again and again in-yo-face.
> > I think my personal track record (for those of you who know me LOL)
> > speaks for itself. BUT I personally feel that looping *itself* isn't 
>the
> > point, even on a list of people called the Looper's Delight.  It's what
> > you DO with looping and boy there is some *great* stuff done with
> > looping out there.
> >
> > This may be stating the obvious but the gist I was getting is some
> > people feel that they need to go somewhere where looping is encouraged
> > or more prevalent and things would be different for them.  I think that
> > is a red herring. Loop where you are and DO something YOU want to do
> > with it. Let's face it, looping and looping tools are pretty damn geeky
> > as a rule. We don't do this for the money or glamour, we do it because
> > our brains are wired differently (wrong? :)) Given that, you don't need
> > to move across the country to be "successful" in looping or even play a
> > gig with three or ten other loopers. As a matter of fact I've found 
>more
> > success when I *didn't* play with other loopers but as part of a 
>diverse
> > lineup of other acts. You reach more people that way and some of them
> > even kind of dig it. I personally think I played better too.
> >
> > Phil Keaggy is consider an amazing *musician* not known to the general
> > public as a looper. Adrian Belew uses looping out the wazoo but he also
> > has a strong  pop sensibility and tremendous talent as a songwriter and
> > singer. Etc. People do fabulous things with all sorts of boxes. Buying
> > an EDP or Jamman or whatever or seeing a band with one doesn't mean
> > it'll be interesting or good or shite, it's just a box after all. Let's
> > not forget where the loop soul comes from.
> >
> > Again, I am ALL for wanking and looping for the sake of it too. (Lord
> > knows I am!) That is fun and has it's place as much as anything else.
> > But let's keep it in perspective, we can (and DO ) do that anywhere. 
>You
> > don't HAVE to  move or congregate  to play. If you mix it up or play
> > with other bands I guarantee you will not only get a bigger audience 
>but
> > you'll find your loop chops improving as well.
> >
> > And BTW Chicago is the GREATEST musical community this country has to
> > offer IMO. I'd move from SF to there instead of the other way around
> > LOL!
> >
> >
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