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> >Let's face it, looping and looping tools are pretty damn geeky as a > rule. > why? who defines that? is it to you? As a matter of fact, yes. :) > not to me...it is interesting, cutting edge and exciting. Well then, by definition, you are a geek. OKAY Okay I'm JUST kidding folks. Look my original post was all rambling and my personal opinion and all that rot. I stand by it but I certainly didn't mean to step on anyone's looping buzz nor do I exclude myself from being a "geek" or "looper" or wanker or a Musician for that matter. Loopfests are great. Loops concerts are great. Learning or moving with others is great. Really. I just wanted to differentiate between what I saw as something people do VS something people feel they HAVE to do in order to be a "looper". IMO you don't need to go somewhere or do anything other than start playing and paying thousands of dollars to move or buy equipment or travel somewhere is great but not at all necessary to a good loop time. Since I seem to have come off wrong and it's not clear let me point out I've been a looper/outsider/avant/experimental/whatever musician and member of Loopers delight for more than a few years. I put out the first Looper's Delight compilation (Still available at Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com/catalog.htm - thank you very much) and have run a label releasing dozens of underground experimental albums for over ten years. I LIKE looping and I don't think there's anything wrong with doing it under *any* circumstance. But, there is no bloody way in God's holy hell I am going to say that a group of gear heads on the internet who discuss what kind of smart media card is best for an Eletrix Repeater or how many seconds the DL4 can get in true stereo or organize wildass and cool experimental concerts are NOT a bunch of geeks. :) I personally rather enjoy it but c'mon, 90210 this ain't and that's not a bad thing either :) ____________________________________________________________________ HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more.