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Re: Mind Boggling LoopIV



Hi Neil,

> *Correct* me, fill in the blanks
> and elaborate if you can, just with the first half-minute or so:
> 
> 1. Single 1/4 note played once

Yes.

> 2. Immediately multiplied into staccato 16ths

Yes and no.  :()  This is Insert=SUS, but because it's used in Stutter
mode, it performs multiples *within* a section of a loop, for as long as
the Insert button is held down.  Notice how the sound of the first note
sort of "stretches out"?  That's what's happening.  I call this SubCycle
Multiply.  

> 3. Becomes 1/4 note again (is that an Undo?)

I don't know how that little space of sound got in there; it wad
recorded before I had my PMC, so it wasn't Replace.  This is why I don't
transcribe the stuff: I can never remember what I was doing!

> 4. Half-speed: which becomes basic loop (in 'bass' register)

Yep.

> 5. Harmonics layed on top using overdub? or insert?

Definitely Overdubbed in this case.

> 6. at 0:40 Reversed, further processing

Yes, though I wouldn't use the term "processing," since I don't really
think of the EDP as an "effect" per se, and there's nothing in the
signal chain other than a guitar and Echoplex.

> Up to the :30 mark, this is just a single loop?

There's actually no loop switching heard until about 1:45 or so, so yes,
everything here is one loop, being constantly redefined and edited using
Insert=SUS.  You can really hear SubCycle Multiply kick in around :38;
every repetition of a sound you hear comes from stepping on the Insert
button to stretch segments of the loop out, and the entire loop is one
cycle long.  I use this technique a lot: throw a bunch of sound at the
EDP and then sculpt it after the fact, until it assumes a tangible
rhythm or structure.

> >>>There is also a "SingleCycle Multiply" available in Stutter mode when
> Insertmode=Insert, and causes stuttery repetitions of cycles within a
> loop.>>>
> 
> Is that how you get that effect early in this piece? 

No, there's no SingleCycle Multiply in this one.  It's kind of a similar
thing to SubCycle Multiply, with a couple of important differences:

1) SingleCycle creates repetitions (or "stutters") within a loop on a
cycle-length basis.  In other words, if you have a loop of multiple
cycles, and you hit Insert (with Insertmode=Insert), then you'll start
repeating individual cycles (or if quantize=off, cycle-length
repetitions, which aren't necessarily clocked to the strict beginnings
and ends of the cycles themselves).

2) There are three things you can do at this point: Let the stutters
repeat over and over again, hit Insert a second time to insert each of
those stutters into the loop, or hit Undo and have the loop revert back
to a normal, un-stuttered state.  

You can always change Interface Mode within a loop, of course, to build
up a mutli-cycle loop in Loop mode, and then go into Stutter mode just
for this sort of thing...

It makes much more sense when you're sitting in front of an EDP doing
all of this, I promise!

--Andre LaFosse
The Echoplex Analysis Pages:
http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP