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<< The box that I enjoy the most is the Modulation Modeller. It sounds crisp and clean in most of the various modes. That is until I add other signal processors in the chain (especially prior to the MM-4), then it becomes lower level and loses much of the high frequency content>> That's funny, I don't seem to have that problem. When I run my Boss Metal Zone in front of the MXR flanger emulation on the MM-4, it sounds just like when I used to run it in front of an actual vintage MXR flanger (back before the manual control stopped working). And the other models sound great with distortion on them, as well. I get great sounds by using the Metal Zone, MM-4 and DL-4 all together. Other than that, I can think of few instances where I'd run a bunch of effects at once. For instance, I also have the Filter Modeler, and I've found that I don't get much by using all three Line 6 pedals at once (or say using the Filter Modeler with my vintage Coloursound wah wah). Whether this is a matter of this design fault you mention, or a simple case of "less is more", I'm not sure. But I have absolutely qualms with any of the Line 6 gear I've bought so far. And I would advise your friend who damaged his pedal by stomping on it too hard to use a little less pressure when he steps on the footswitch. I always think it's ridiculous when I read about damaging pedals because they took the expression "stompbox" a little too literally. ===== May you never thirst! The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris "What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?"-James Earl Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com