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> hmmm... I guess I spend too much time going to CCRMA to hear 'piece for > violin and tape' and 'composition for tape and cello'... or, worse yet >'tape > machine duet'... hehe... :) thats one thing that is done...among a million others > > but, seriously, we are talking about performance, so, I would tend to >agree > if there is no 'performance' happening, then something is lacking... but, > if someone performs on a solo instrument, but, for whatever reason, >doesn't > have a band, it seems that prerecorded backing music makes sense... sorry to me it doesnt make any sense.for me its about honesty and reality.the latter which i'm not too familiar w/ sometimes... > > nine inch nails (until thier last tour) ran 7 tracks of prerecorded >material > along with thier live instrument playing... this, of course, greatly >impinges > on the 'improvability', but, imo, did not take away from the >'performance'... yeah and <moby> band plays to a dat tape(*a lotta bands do it*)-sorry they all lose points on immediacy and thinkin creatively on yer toes... > > just a couple of cents from the few I have... :) just a different perspective... s > > -cpr > >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" <ssrndpty@hotmail.com> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> Subject: Re: prerecorded loops >> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:02:01 -0700 >> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> >> >> >> >>> Most of the time I'm turned off by prerecorded loops. A lot of >> performances >>> have lost points with me because the musicians put on a cd of the >musical >>> background and simply soloed over it. The same goes for pre-programmed >> drum >>> machines. To me it's a turnoff. >> >> Hear hear. >> >> I've seen more than one act get up on stage and do nothing but playback >> beats from their synths. Why not just play the cd? (If it's more than > one >> person, why not just synch up cd players? Or all stand around a >repeater, >> with one hand on your volume knob?) >> >> It's also the biggest problem I have with my own current 'live' sound, > 50% >> of my noise comes from live loops and electric instruments, but the >other >> half is painfully sequenced. I've been trying very hard to get away from >> it, >> but current technology limit things :< >> >> At this point, the only option seems to be to >add< a second sequencer, > to >> make up for the poor level of interactivity of the one I am using. This > will >> be putting me one laptop outside the '10 minute set up' limit, and those >> dj >> booths aren't getting any larger :/ >> >>> Part of the challenge behind making a live >>> solo (or small group) performance work is to find ways to do everything >> you >>> need onstage, which includes cutting some elements that might not be >>> necessary. >> >> I wouldn't call it a challenge myself, though I agree with the gist of > what >> you are saying. It's not the 'challenge' or 'not challenge' that people > came >> to see - they came to hear expression in aural form, so you need to >justify >> the trouble they took to come and see you instead of just playing your > cd. >> Otherwise, why bother? And no, guitar noodle over pre-recorded tracks is >> not >> 'extra expression' :> (Not that I haven't been guilty of that myself in > the >> past) >> >>> >>> But then again, I come from a very improvisational background. >>> >> >> No need for caveats - you're making sense. >> >> bIz >> > >