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Claude, I just sang, and it came out this way. I'd love to play it for you, but I'm not sure I have enough space in my personal web space at the moment. Is there a place I could upload it to? -Or can I e-mail it to you privatelY? As far as getting turned on to palindromic polyrhythms and simple palindromic rhythms, I first played with them quite unexpectedly, since I realized I needed a 9 count when recording in reverse to get a chord to match up with the beginning of a forward track. That way, I'd have a four count forward, and a four count backward, and could get them both dead-on. <smile> I thought it was way cool! lol! Anyway, I then was introduced to polyrhythms, some of which being palindromic, through Music Craft and Guitar Craft. This vocal loop just happened though. I was really surprized not to be able to tell the direction. anyway, if you'd like to hear it, -just lemme' know what you'd like me to do, K? Smiles, CQ At 12:02 PM 7/20/02 +0200, you wrote: >GODDESS > >can we have a listen to this accident >or isnt it the instinctive result of your sutained work with those stuctures in >your guitar playing >that made you sing palindromic by instinct >work and search always land in your instinctive playing (finnaly....;=) > >where can I find more info on the palindromic uses in music >how did you discover this way of generating structures >are there others ways >very interested > >Claude > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Goddess" <thefates@earthlink.net> >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 11:35 AM >Subject: re: GODDESS's forward/reverse 'accident > > >> hey Rick, woohoo!, still up and loopy! lol! Thanks for the tips. I >> play around with palindromic polyrhythms and teach them in my lessons, I >> also used to use simple rhythmic palindromes as count-ins when >recording >> in reverse with tape. So I'm familiar with the concepts. I can't wait >to >> try these out! >> Yes, amy and I have been corresponding a bit lately. I wish I got to >see >> the festival. >> Something I found particularly interesting about my vocal loop is that >> there's alot of sliding of notes relative to eachother, changing chords >> between tension and resolve, and despite all this, it's still almost >> impossible for me to tell which direction this was recorded at. It's >> pretty wild! >> Anyway, nighters for now, -will talk soon, K? >> >> Hugs, >> >> CQ >> >> At 01:11 AM 7/20/02 -0700, you wrote: >> >Dear Goddess, >> > >> >Viz a vis this idea of forwards and backwards loops. >> >Try this on for size: >> > >> >Start playing around with some palindromic rhythms. >> > >> >an example would be this simple rhythm in 5/8 >> > >> > >> >5/8 ||: D*T*D :|| >> > >> >where D = a bass note >> > T = a treble note >> > * = a rest >> > >> >These could be melodic or percussive sounds. >> > >> >Flip 'em over backwards and , voila, you have the same rhythm coming as >> >going!!!! >> > >> >Here's a beautiful rhythm from Cuba called 'Cascara' that is >rhythmically >> >palindromic: >> > >> >||: T*TT*T*TT*T*TT*T :|| >> > 1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a >> > >> >*by the way, if these rhythms don't line up, select them and change the font >> >to courier or andale (fixed width fonts that make all characters line >up). >> >That's how we send rhythms on the frame drummers list without having to use >> >a notation program. >> > >> >Now make the melody palindromic as well, as in: >> > >> >||: 1*33*5*77*5*33*1 :|| >> > 1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a >> > >> >I'm using 1, 3, 5 and 7 as whatever degree of whatever mode or scale >you >> >happen to choose (hence, locrian mode would be 1, flat 3, flat 5, >flat >> >7). >> > >> >You see what I mean? Excellent for forwards and backwards and >forwards >> >playing that still stays 'consonant' both rhythmically and >harmonically. >> > >> >Try it, you'll like it.......... <smile> >> > >> >Hope you are well. How's that new repeater coming along? Can't wait >to >> >hear you perform at the World's First All Woman Looping Festival, >October >> >4th at the San Jose Museum of Art. Amy X Neuburg was phenomenal and >> >phenomenally well recieved at this past weeks' Y2K2 Loopfest, btw, and >she >> >will also be on the bill with you as the headliner. It's going to kick >> >butt. >> > >> >warmly, Rick Walker (loop.pool) >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> --- >> >> "The only things I really think are important, are love, and >eachother. >> -Then, anything is possible..." >> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~thefates >> >> Please visit The Guitar Cafe. >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-guitar-cafe >> >> >> > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~thefates Please visit The Guitar Cafe. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-guitar-cafe