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To Anthony Justman- what you need are called Tinnerman #10-32 clip on nuts. The standard fastener for unthreaded rack rail. What you also need is to set your email editor to plain text so your original msg is copied into the reply ;) -henry ---------------------------------------------------------- I just had an annoying one. bought a two unit ATA; was definitely cheaper than SKB and just as well made. IN fact, mine has a lock and the SKB did not Only problem was that the rack screws have to attach to a bar in the back of the holes and it is not affixed to the unthreaded holes, which when trying to install a two unit amp in the two unit box was a real pain in the arse. Had to stand on my head, tape the thing to the back of the row of unthreaded holes.....