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In or around the same time, I sent a letter saying, "maybe MIDI synched loops would be a nice thing." and got a much more polite, "We'll keep that idea in mind." Maybe if all of us got together and sent letters saying we want a MIDI synchable looper, they might get the picture, but I think the picture is there are a hundred loop wankers that want this so why bother. So, the Delay Pro is a bust as a looper. Suspected so. But for $50 more than the pedal version and you get all that the DL4 is plus MIDI synched stereo delays? Sounds worth it to me. I do really interesting stuff with my little MOFX's primitive midi synched delay. But more interesting to me is the other two Modeler Pro units. They seem like GREAT loop mangler devices. Anyone have experience with them they'd like to share? I wish they made a Modeler SUPER Pro, which combined all three devices in one rackspace. mmmmmm one rackspace. Essentially, this is what I try to make my Lexicon MPX1 do. (and it sure does some cool stuff, BTW) A man can dream, can't he? So speak up if you've tried the Filter or Mod Pro. I've read some amazing reviews on Harmony Central. Mark Sottilaro On Monday, August 12, 2002, at 09:37 PM, Eric Williamson wrote: > mark said: >> Now that I think about it, it's really annoying that it doesn't at >> least send MIDI clock in loop mode. > > if you'll check the archives, i made a post detailing a phone > conversation > with a very rude and arrogant man at Line6 which details why these > Echo"Pro" units are barely worth buying _even_at_$300_. > > the attitude was basically that a looper was musically useless, just > "for > fun", and that it was "unreasonable" of me to expect _any_ controls or > features beyond what Line6 had deigned to offer me. > > there will be other looptools ... > > Eric Williamson > www.suitandtieguy.com >