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Hi all I am completely new to the looping concept and it may be that looping is not really what I want to do. I want to construct rhythm patterns by playing into a loop sampler. I picked up a Line6 Echo Pro locally to try. It's an amazing piece of gear but so far the loop/sampling features are not what I expectedr. There's really no way to control the length of a sampled loop other than to push a button at the start and then again at the end. If I want to drop in an 8 beat phrase and have it repeat, I don't see any way to do that where the loop will hold to the beat. There doesn't seem to be any way to edit the loop time . I was expecting to at least be able to do that with some kind of on-the-fly "recycle" button that would cause the loop to jump back to it's start and then repeat back from wherever that button was pushed. Seems to me that might work. I can think of other ways it could work too. How do people usually do this? It certainly sounds to me like loops are easily being done that keep time with a pre-determined rhythm. Are they using midi? Some other type of loop/sampler that does this? Any advice appreciated . Thanks Mike Berman digiboy@nyc.rr.com