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Welcome to the list. It sounds like looping is exactly what you want to do, but I think the issue you're having is that the Echo Pro is a bit limited in the Looper dept, but great at Echo stuff. We were all dissapointed that the loops did not synch to MIDI. Sounds to me like you'd do well with a Repeater ($499 get'm while they're hot, they've been discontinued) or an Echoplex Digital Pro. ($650) Both will synch the loops to a MIDI clock. If you don't care about the live performance aspects of it all, check out the Roland SP-808 Groove Sampler. I've got a friend that might be selling hers. Are you a DJ or play a traditional instrument? There are also some great software loopers (again, not for performance situations where you're creating the loop by what you play, but have a pre recorded loop you want to trigger/mangle) like Ablton's Live. Go to the http://www.loopersdelight.com and check the "Tools of the Trade" page. Mark Sottilaro On Wednesday, August 21, 2002, at 08:10 PM, Mike B (digiboy) wrote: > Hi all > > I am completely new to the looping concept and it may be that looping is > not really what I want to do. > I want to construct rhythm patterns by playing into a loop sampler. > > I picked up a Line6 Echo Pro locally to try. It's an amazing piece of > gear > but so far the loop/sampling features are not what I expectedr. > > There's really no way to control the length of a sampled loop other > than to > push a button at the start and then again at the end. If I want to drop > in > an 8 beat phrase and have it repeat, I don't see any way to do that > where > the loop will hold to the beat. There doesn't seem to be any way to > edit > the loop time . I was expecting to at least be able to do that with > some > kind of on-the-fly "recycle" button that would cause the loop to jump > back > to it's start and then repeat back from wherever that button was > pushed. > Seems to me that might work. > I can think of other ways it could work too. > > How do people usually do this? It certainly sounds to me like loops are > easily being done that keep time with a pre-determined rhythm. Are they > using midi? Some other type of loop/sampler that does this? > Any advice appreciated . > Thanks > > > > Mike Berman > digiboy@nyc.rr.com > > > >