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>At 10:09 PM 8/26/2002, ernesto schnack wrote: >> > With all due respect, I absolutely cannot understand this idea at >all. >>> Jam Bands play improvised music, and Phish is playing Madison Square >>> Garden on New Year's Eve. >> >>Well Phish is an exception to everything. They play stadiums despite >>no radio airplay or MTV. In a way, they's still not mainstream despite >>being so huge. To me, the average non-musician likes written songs >>with words that he can sing along to, both on the radio, and when he >>goes to a concert. That is the impression I've gotten from the people >>I've met and what i hear and see on the radio and mtv. Of course many >>people listen to improvised music, but i wouldn't call it mainstream. >>But that depends what one considers to be "mainstream." I know improv >>doesn't automatically equal experimental, but i don't see an >>improv-based piece going #1 anytime soon either. > >A lot of rappers improvise their raps. Many of them really take >pride in that skill. I think it follows the same social-historical >arc that jazz comes from, with the same improvisational traditions >in a new form. The dj scratching in hip-hop is almost always >improvised. Listening to Q-bert reminds me more of listening to >Charlie Parker than anything else. > >kim yeah, loop the rap... isnt that awful? ;-) now if they improvize their grooves, lets open a page for that on LD or Looppool -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org