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Mark Hamburg explained his concern: <There was a story a while back in Guitar Player concerning someone (Leni <Stern?) who saw David Torn play and wondered what guitar synth he was using. <The happy ending is that she asked and he told her that no synths were <involved and it was loops plus other processing. How many people don't <bother to ask? This happened to me at a gig documented on the list (search archives for Baptism of Fire), where an audience member (who was also a musician of sorts) thought the Boss GT-3 processing was guitar synth--and I'm not sure he noticed the looping! Even though all of us on this list know better, I am sure most audience members think of looping as just one more way of processing--of course, they aren't involved in the real time control, so they can't appreciate the difference in interactivity. And they DO observe the loss of focus on them--so looping is just not the best show-biz tool (as opposed to, say, a light show). The more I think about it, modern processing of audio is synthesis of a sort. Isn't it? Gary