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> I think what it boils down to is this: Looping doesn't seem > interesting to most musicians when explained or experienced. > You've really just got to do it to love it. I could be wrong. I think this is true. This is why the addition of simple loop functionality into devices like the DL4 will probably help the cause. You buy it 'cause it's a great delay...you wind up loving looping and may eventually want a more advanced tool for that. I think there's a slant on this which many musicians may not have considered. I've encountered a huge number of musicians who are disgusted with the "band scene", but still love making music. The late hours, scheduling hassles, politics and personality conflicts, and all that wear a lot of people out. A lot of them turn to home recording, but that restricts your ability to improvise over a changing background, and doesn't usually allow you to play out (unless you play to backing tracks, which both restricts you to set arrangements and generally relegates you to "cheezy" status). A looper is a tool which enables you to extend yourself to fill more of the sonic palette, to improvise without a band. I think that's a market that should be ripe. I know this is a motivation for me. My schedule doesn't allow for much "band work", and frankly, I'm sick of the endless unproductive rehearsals to earn that one scanty gig somewhere...before the whole project fizzles when the vocalist or drummer or whatever quits. Then the endless auditions and rehearsals start all over again. My playing style isn't one that really works for solo performances. Perhaps that reflects on my poor musicianship, which I'm trying to improve, but in the mean time I either have to play with a group or...I can play along with myself using a looper. This allows me to do musically satisfying work 1) when I want, 2) without depending on others. I think this would appeal to many "cottage musicians" (someone described this before as "dentist musicians" when talking about who can afford expensive guitars). It's a good market, one which I haven't seen any marketing done to for loopers. There's considerable marketing done this direction for home studio equipment, perhaps this is something that would help? The idea that this is something that only "stage musicians" might use probably holds people back. If they see the possibilities for what you can do with one of these tools as part of your own music done for personal satisfaction, I think they might sell better. But I think the bottom line is that most musicians just don't understand the possibilities. I wanted a Jamman a few years back, but didn't really understand that it did more then a delay with an "infinite hold" button like my old RDS3600. Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com