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Your assumption seems to be that nature is only constructive and positive (in whatever shades of meaning we derive from our particular culture). "Viruses" are nature themselves. A giant volcanic explosion is nature. A giant meteor or comet hitting the Earth and killing off all the dinosaurs is nature. Are you aware that more than 90% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct? And if that is the pattern (loop?) of nature on Earth, guess what's our (humans') most probable destiny? All loops vanish away. We *are* biochemical loops. It's natural. It's delightful! -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Wyatt [mailto:stuart@solostring.com] Sent: Thursday 26 September 2002 12:57 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping brings infinity? On Thursday, September 26, 2002, at 09:39 AM, Looper in delight wrote: > But we *are* nature. We don't *mimic* nature. I'm not 100% convinced that we are nature. Mankind works against nature. You only have to look at how we fight amongst ourselves and slowly suffocate the planet and kill off all the other species of living matter and natural resources. We are almost like viruses - consume, spread, consume, spread.... Certainly there are core elements of the human body that are made up of elements of nature, but there is something coherantly very wrong with the human psyche. Maybe the 'buzz' comes from this psyche actually taping back into nature.... its a different natural state to be in, thus is a trip.... Damn... I'm rambing. :) -- Stuart Wyatt - Solo String Project http://www.solostring.com stuart@solostring.com