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From: Tom Ritchford [mailto:tom@swirly.com] >(some of us work with live looping, others are structured) heheh, boy have you opened a can of worms with THAT! Hey, we're used to it. 35 people from several countries with so many diverse styles my head spins ... We've opened so many cans of worms at times that we could be doing TREMORS 4. Don't even ask about where the guitarists stand in relationship to the keyboardists, because the drummers will sneak up and get you. I love this crazy outfit, I really do. David