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No, you get it exactly. That's what I'm saying too, for me. What I'm saying about Amy X and Brian Kenny Fresno, is that they compose a set piece with a defined structure. Then, they use a looper to build each part and then play their melody over it. Both do an amazing job (they do very different kinds of music) but the goal is not improv, it's to recreate a pre composed piece. All I was saying is that I don't think recreating a pre composed piece was the way looping will be for me. Mark Sottilaro On Saturday, October 12, 2002, at 02:00 PM, Carsten Wegener wrote: > am 12.10.2002 20:12 Uhr schrieb Mark Sottilaro unter > sine@zerocrossing.net: > >> During my JamMan days, I was more about making 3 or 4 parts and >> toggling between them. I did it in an improvisational style, so I'm >> not sure if I was every true to the ABACA form, but I bet I was. >> Raised in the Lennon/McCartney tradition, it's a wonder if I'll ever >> escape that! >> >> Upon switching to the Repeater, I find myself doing that a lot less. >> Like Matthias, I find the more liquid free form musical morph (gotta >> bring that buzzword back!) to be more interesting. At least to play. >> While I LOVE the things Amy X and Brian Kenny Fresno do with their >> loopers (Brian's a JamMan guy) I always get the feeling that they're >> just trying to get away with not having to deal with not having a >> band, >> you know? Amy seems to have her act down to the note. Sure, the >> looper helps her do her show more easily, but is that what loopers are >> about? Not for me, I think. I still am toying with the idea of >> returning to my "pop" roots and seeing how the Repeater could fit into >> doing a live performance. To me it seems to be the difference between >> making soup from a receipe or going to a market, buying what seems >> good >> and then making it up from scratch. Sure, you'll come up with stuff >> that's not so edible sometimes, but you learn with time. Maybe this >> not so interesting for the audience, but it's a hell of a lot more >> interesting to me as a musician, and to be honest, with the money I >> made doing more pop structured music, I'm in this for fun now. >> (weirdly, I seem to make more money with my music now...) >> >> Mark Sottilaro >> >> On Friday, October 11, 2002, at 05:31 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: >>> >>> But I am seriously interested in this trends for structuring. >>> >>> First off: I only saw a demo of Amy and have one piece of here here, >>> but I was deeply impressed by the way she works, really worth a >>> listen >>> for all of us! >>> >>> I wonder where the so typical forms ABACA and such come from and >>> whether they are needed for the understanding of the public or maybe >>> are overcome tradition? >> > Sorry Mark, > But I didnīt get the point behind your soupthing. Though i feel thereīs > something really essential you are saying. Could you give me another > chance > getting a look into your looposophy? > Iīm as well Beatles/Pop-based, though in the last 20 years I came over > lots > of other styles and ideologies. Now my main base seems to be > folkloristic > music from the middle-east, balkanies, Cajun, Klezmer and some more. > But I > always come back to my deep fascination for looping. My vision for a > long > time was and still is to find the similarities and connections between > music-styles traditions, ideologies after learning about the > differences. > This can only happen, if you manage to find the essence, the deep end > of > something(like pop or folk or looping). > Looping to me means intuitivity, a great toy to play with myself and > other > musicians, a tool to check out (combinations of) sounds, a tool that is > leading everytime deeper into my own musical world. It is not so much a > substitute for an accompanying band, i prefer real musicians for that. > So what about your soup? > Carsten >