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Damn, Steve, you're gonna pull me out of retirement...! Steve Lawson wrote: > I'm just getting into it, especially in replace mode - have you done any > polyrythmic stuff with switching 8th=? during a piece I personally haven't, but if you're interested in 8th-quant polyrhythms, try this on for size: 1) Plug a pedal into the feedback hack 2) Set Insertmode to Substitute 3) Set Interface mode (under "loop/delay" parameters) to either Stutter or Replace The reason for number 3 is that, because the pedal controls feedback in these modes, the actual front panel knob becomes a "Substitute Feedback" control. Which simply means that you can adjust how much of the original loop will still be heard when using Substitute. If you turn the front feedback knob all the way to the left, then Substitute will cover up all of the original material in the loop. If you turn it all the way to the right, then Substitute basically becomes Overdub - you can still hear the original material in the loop after you perform the Substitute function. So, you could lay down a 4/4 groove in a single-cycle loop, and then set 8th/cycle to, say, 5. If you start doing 8th-quantized Substitute business with the front Feedback knob full right, then you'll get these 5:4 polyrhythms happening, but it'll be a truly audible polyrhythm, because you'll still be able to hear the original loop content (because you turned the Feedback knob all the way to the right in Stutter or Replace mode). Jesus, that reads a lot more complex than it actuall is, I promise. > - any conceptual ideas to pass on? Me? Conceptual ideas? What on Earth are you talking about?! Now if you'd asked for good beer recommendations... - I like using 8th-quant with Substitute a lot, because it's a very surprising, subtle, and smooth way of changing things. You can play stuff into the EDP and not have any idea how it's going to sound until you hear it back. But because 8th-quant is on, it will automatically have a highly rhythmic quality. Kind of like giving glitch-core a nice suit and a haircut. (Can you tell I need to get out of the house more? And get a haircut?) It's particularly cool if you set the 8th/cycle value to a higher value than you could realistically play in real time, i.e. putting 8th/cycle to 16 at a tempo where one cycle = 180 BPM or so. - Use some variation when you're doing 8th-quant stuff. Hold the replace button down for different lengths of time to introduce some variation in the length of the replace/substitute action, to get away from the "step sequencer" feel, and try adding a few drops of silence by hitting the button without playing anything into it. Or try doing lots of replace/substitute in one part of a loop, but leaving the rest of the loop unaltered, for a sort of post-Timbaland start-stop effect. (Dude, I'm giving away all my good tricks here...) - Like Per said, 8th-quant in conjunction with changing speed is a lot of fun. > I'm kind of experimenting with glitchy FSU stuff at the moment, You're well on your way to being the first guy to open for both Level 42 and Autechre... > but wondering about more predictable processes and outcomes... ...which is interesting to hear you say, since I find 8th-quant most useful for UN-predictable outcomes. It does impose a more assuredly rhythmic effect, but I find that when I know precisely what I want to do with Replace stuff, I like having Quantize off, because I can be more accurate and exact with the way I use it. 8th-quant is like automatic transmission, and unquantized is like driving a stick. > Anyone with an EDP who hasn't got Loop IV yet, you are missing out on so > many very very cool features... get it, and let the features teach you >some > new stuff... :o) True dat. And mad props to Andy Butler for coming up with 8th-quant in the first place. As is horribly apparent by now, I'm in very dire need of a brisk walk and a cup of coffee... Most best, --Andre LaFosse The Echoplex Analysis Pages: http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP