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Numbers are just language. An abstraction we use to describe natural phenomana. Useful, but not nessecary at all. Music doesn not "go by the numbers" but it can be described with them. I suck at math and barely read music. Sparrows know nothing of areodynamics either, yet they fly REAL GOOD. Mark Sottilaro jim palmer wrote: > > > "Everything in music goes by numbers" > > > > playing the devil's advocate, but who is to say which came first? for > > example: perhaps everything in numbers goes by music. why are numbers > > considered the basis? > > > >