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ian, re: the below: check the loopersdelight archives for info on: the echoplex digital pro {EDP ---still in production!}, the repeater, the jamman, etc, as these are a few of the valuable hardware looping-devices which will allow for your need to stay-in-sync..... best, dt / splattercell >However, when one of my loops forms the basis for a piece and it needs to run solidly with >drum loops (that the drummer creates with drum machine or sequencer) and >an >arpegiator, then my loops always drift.