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O O mybad-if i had thought about what DT said(knowing wot i know of yer setup) i woulda realized what you were talkin of specifically. i really do pay attention.......sometimes s (cant wait to *hear* whatcher spreken) > to be clear, i wasn't trying to be clever, nor was i referring to the >(for > me) 'normal' playable loop of guitar/amp/speaker/pickup feedback; > i was mentioning the electronic feedback loop that i've got built into my > instruments, wherein a line-output from my amp is sent back to the input >on > the guitar, whilst the guitar output is still connected to the amp in the > normal way. > i have a very fast momentary switch on the face of the instrument that >allows > for toggling between output (normal) and input (electronic feedback >loop). > when the loop is engaged, the broad potential range of the feedback >signal's > pitch/timbre/rhythm is manipulated not by the instrument's strings, but >via > *any* control in the path, eg volume, tone, any ctrls on pedal-devices > etc..... > additionally, i've discovered that the last actual *played* notes (while >the > guitar is set to 'output', that is) ---depending on their distortion > lvl/waveshape--- will certainly deeply affect the beginning of the > feedback-loop's harmonic/timbral arc and shape..... > > if you have a mixer at hand, you can experiment w/this by feeding any > channel's output directly to its input --- ie, no 'instrument' in the >path > --- and then massage all eq's, faders, etc that are in the channel path; > obviously, if you then add/insert delay-based/looping devices into the > channel path, well..... have fun! > but: > when yer first mutzing around w/all this, be sure to *KEEP YER HAND ON >THE > MASTER FADER*, so as not to blow up your monitors..... > > anyways, this is another kind of looping that i employ. > > best, > dt / splattercell > > http://www.splattercell.com > http://www.egroups.com/group/davidtorn >