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I've haven't had any problems on-stage w/ headphones and feedback. In a recording situation where everything has to be totally quiet, open-air headphones will leak a little sound if you are within a few inches of microphone. But on stage, the headphones are FAR quieter than an amp. Yes, headphone.com actually provides frequency response graphs for their headphones. Very helpful. I went to one of their tradeshows a few months ago, and listened to the $12,000 Sennheiser Orpheus headphones and tube pre-amp. They sounded incredible, but so did the $500 headphones ;-) Thanks.. -----Original Message----- From: astroblue [mailto:astro@astroblue.com] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:05 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: open air headphones (looping with a mic) I have always associated open-air headphones with being far more susceptible to feedback when standing near an open mic. That was apparently not a problem for you? It certainly is nice to be able to hear the room and especially other performers speaking to you :) Second the recommendation on headphone.com. Great resource and very educational. Who knew there were folks paying almost $4K for a personal headphone amp? wow thanks for the tip. Bob Campbell <avoid subject rot, change subject lines often to keep them fresh and inviting!> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Bolan" <pbolan@csiconstruction.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:16 AM Subject: RE: looping with a mic > Yesterday I performed some looping on an acoustic guitar in a church > where the on-stage sound levels had to be low. I used a little > Behringer mixer to split the signal off my looper to [the board] and to > [the headphones]. It worked great. I used Grado open-aire headphones. > Grado headphones do not occlude your ear from outside noise, so you can > still hear the room ambience or the band or whatever. > > A word about the Grado headphones: I picked these headphones out at a > headphone trade show. They have a nearly flat response across the > spectrum, not bass heavy like most of the consumer brands. Their entry > model is under $100. Checkout at headphone.com, or gradolabs.com. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Michael [mailto:rob_michael_2002@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:15 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: looping with a mic > > The solution is simpler that one might think. As long > as your looping rig involves a sub-mixer w/ headphone > jack--have the house floor monitors turned off > completely and simply use any earbuds/headphones. > > I have done this w/ a Mackie 1202 vlz several times. > In order that I can EQ my stereo headphone mix without > messing with the house mix-just go phones out into the > channel inputs another small mixer (those cheap little > behringers are fine) and split the signal at the 2nd > mixer's phone out to accomodate any one else who may > need the mix. > > It's not the most glamorous solution--but room noise > and feedback problems are effectivley eliminated. > > Cheers, > > Rob Michael > > > >I've been dreaming of a earbud/headphone system to > use >as monitors for > >years. I know a lot of big acts use them > exclusively. >Anyone here > >using something like that? > > >Mark Sottilaro > > >On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 04:05 AM, Ian > Popperwell wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I used to use my DL4 with my miced up flute (close > clip-on omni > > condenser) and > > had such problems with build-up of noise from > monitors and audience. > > There's a > > really critical level, over which FOH and monitors > made it imposible > > to create > > loops with much subtlety and definition. I agree > about gates and volume > > pedals, > > also monitor levels, position on stage also help. > > > > I now use my wind synth system and its wonderful not > to wory about > > noise and > > feedback - that any "noise" that I create is > deliberate and part of > > what I'm > > doing. > > > > Ian. > > > > > > At 07:15 19/01/03 , you wrote: > >> yes ii used to mic my looping set up. it was a > nightmare! especially > >> in live > >> situations. gates help, you cant get around direct > somehow. i have > >> built a > >> nifty routing system that pulls up to 12 channels > into my boomerang+. > >> let me > >> know if this interests you or anyone else. > >> > >> peace > >> jimmy george > >> > <http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com/>http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: ernesto schnack <schnack@mailbolt.com> > >> To: <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:34 PM > >> Subject: looping with a mic > >> > >> > >>> I just had a bit of a revelation by looping for > the first time with a > >>> mic, instead of plugging in my acoustic guitar. > The result was > >>> great, > >>> esp. because it allowed me to easily use other > instruments > >>> (including my > >>> voice). I was even thinking of using a stereo > pair and recording > >>> parts > >>> from different positions to place them in the > stereo field. > >>> > >>> However, the leaking of the monitored signal into > the mic became a > >>> problem at one point, but i managed to keep it > under control since i > >>> had > >>> the input muted in the repeater. Still, in a live > situation this > >>> would > >>> be quite a problem. Anybody have experience doing > this? Any > >>> suggestions > >>> on preventing leakage, noise gate on the mic > maybe? > >>> -- > >>> ernesto schnack > >>> <http://schnack.does.it/>http://schnack.does.it > >>> > >>> -- > >>> <http://fastmail.fm/>http://fastmail.fm - A no > graphics, no pop-ups > >>> email > > service > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com >