Re: Syncing Cakewalk/Sonar to EDP clock...

["Jesse Ray Lucas" <jlucas@neoprimitive.net>]

Actually, sorry, I am running Sonar 2.1 XL, and LoopIII v5.0

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hastings" <dhastings@earthlink.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: Syncing Cakewalk/Sonar to EDP clock...


> Note:  All of the following is with Sonar 1, Loop III,v 5.0
>
> |  Symptoms:
>
> | - The manual says you're just supposed to start the sequencer and it
will
> | wait for MIDI clock and then start itself.  It says "Waiting for MIDI
> | Sync..." in the status bar at the bottom of the screen when I press 
>play
> in
> | Sonar, but as soon as I step on Record on the EDP footswitch to start
> | recording a loop for it to sync to, that message vanishes.  I tried
> setting
> | MIDI --> Control Source on the EDP to all possible values (controller,
> note,
> | and off) and nothing changed.
>
> Looking at the midi output from the edp using MIDI-OX
> (http://www.midiox.com) it appears that the first message send by the EDP
> when you press record (assuming you set ControlSource to off) is 'Stop'.
My
> guess is that Sonar sees the message and does.  (Leastwise, my copy of
Sonar
> drops out of record when I press the record button on the EDP.)
>
> | - If I have a loop running on the EDP already, sending MIDI clock, and 
>I
> | press play in Sonar it says "Waiting for MIDI Sync..." and sits there
> while
> | the clock indicator on the EDP blinks away.
>
>
> Here, I believe Sonar is waiting for a 'Start' message, which got sent
back
> when you pressed record.
>
> If you don't mind doing a little bit of programming, you may be able to
use
> something like KeyKit (http://www.nosuch.com/keykit/) to filter the
> Start/Stop messages to something more to Sonar's liking.  I haven't tried
> this so I have no idea what it will do to the stability of the MIDI clock
> received by Sonar.  (Although I have played around with varying the rate
at
> which Sonar gets SMPTE messages using KeyKit, and it's kind of 
>interesting
> until Sonar give up.)
>
> back to lurking
> -daveh
> --------------
> Dave Hastings
> dhastings@earthlink.net
> "The trouble with music appreciation in general is that people are
>  taught to have too much respect for music; they should be taught to
>  love it instead."
>
>  - Igor Stravinsky
>
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