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You could be right and then again depending on if there app is distributed there could still be some latency. The minimum number of app servers here is a web server and a database server you could add a queue server and a transaction processor too they would add some latency, but still if you proxied using there software your bid should come first. I guess the snipers are really playing a random game I was sniped by a shark who contacted me within five minutes of the end of the bid who wanted to sell to me at an additional profit I didn't acknowledge him. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Leas [mailto:dennis@mail.worldserver.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:33 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: ebay sniping > You are forgeting about one issue no matter how you might try to be > the last bidder it still may fail due to network and web application > (eBay web interface) latency, so it still ends up being very random as > to predictability of timing. Your network path to eBay could be > swamped due to any number of issues including a DNS update to a > router. Yes, network latency is significant and needs to be considered. However, I was referring to ebay's own auto proxy bidding, which I presume runs on the their server so latency is insignificant in that case. Third party autobidding software definitely has to contend with unpredictable Internet latencies. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mail.worldserver.com