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At 5:40 PM +0000 3/4/03, Steve Lawson wrote: >any punk bands who are looping? ;o) Back in 1978-79 I played bass in an avant-punk band called Klang. Most of us were graduate students in composition (our drummer was a surfer and undergraduate recording major). Our music was fast and odd, blending punk with ideas and techniques from avant garde music: minimalism, polytonality, phasing, cut-up, quotation and appropriation, extended vocal techniques, multiple tempo layers, etc. Most of the material was original (out sole cover was the Souxie cover "Nicotine Stain"), though we sometimes appropriated large chunks from existing songs. A typical example of this was "Robots," which contained the entire organ solo from "Light My Fire," albeit over different chord changes. We didn't do any looping per se, but used some techniques of pattern music such as gradual introduction of phasing between instruments. We also used fragmentation and permutation techniques in a song based on the Brion Gysin poem "I Am That I Am." http://www.brainwashed.com/h3o/dreamachine/i_am.html Klang was also the only band I know of to have no less than two songs inspired by Karel Capek. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com