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At 2:04 PM -0500 3/5/03, Mike iLL wrote: >yes, Burroughs (W.S.) is oft. considered an "original punk" and wrote >about >cut-ups and tape loops (actually did some work wioth looping of spoken >word >tapes). The early cut-ups supposedly came from Brion Gysin's influence. I saw the film "Towers Open Fire" in 1969 and read a couple of WSB's books then. At that same time I was studying film making. Burroughs was a HUGE influence on me, and I started using techniques of cut-up, layering, and looping as part of my films. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com