Re: CHEAP SOLUTION to Breakbeat creation for Live Looping was: BREAKBEATS..................

["bIz \(looper\)" <bIz-looper@groovetronica.com>]

Do you mean an mpc2000?

Around here they are still going for ~$1,000 used.

bIz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Smith" <geoff.smith15@btopenworld.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: CHEAP SOLUTION to Breakbeat creation for Live Looping was:
BREAKBEATS..................


> Unless I'm wrong (don't have time to read everything)
> No one has mentioned the akai mdc2000 which can be picked up relatively
> cheaply second hand.
> This allows u to create drum loops or anything live. Simply put it into
> record metronome on use the phones output so u can hear the click, and 
>use
> the other 8 outputs for the drum samples. Only u hear the click then.
> U can change tracks mute tracks etc. as your going along by simply 
>leaving
> it in record mode and changing tracks.
> Its one of the best solutions I've used, would like to try the sequencer
> that that howie B uses though.
>
> Geoff
>
>
> on 10/3/03 5:26 am, Rick Walker/Loop.pooL at GLOBAL@cruzio.com wrote:
>
> > Viz a vis, a cheap solution to breakbeat creation for live looping:
> >
> > One really cool thing you can do (especially on a PC with the fabulous
> > FRUITY LOOPS PRO which, in my humble opinion is the best drum machine 
>in
the
> > world and just about to get way better........watch for next month's
> > COMPUTER MUSIC magazine from the UK for a cover article covering it) is
to
> > program really cool drumbeats on a home
> > computer and then burn them to a CD.
> >
> > Most mixing boards have stereo ins and it is really cheap to buy a
walkman
> > styled
> > portable CD player these days.
> >
> > You can either resample the grooves onto your sampler of just play to
the
> > tracks
> > (make sure that you have at least ten minutes per groove recorded so 
>you
> > don't run
> > out during a long performance) if you are not planning to either loop 
>or
> > retrigger.
> >
> > the degree of sophistication that you can get with a program like 
>Fruity
> > Loops Pro
> > is so much more vast and FAST!!!! than you can with a hardware drum
machine.
> >
> > also, unless you have midi syncability with an EDP, a REPEATER or an 
>old
> > JAMPERSON
> > you will have to rely on your own rhythmic sense for retriggering
anyway.
> >
> > a lot of people shy away from this approach but I find it can be very
> > effective in
> > a live performance to use prerecorded all original drum programming on 
>a
> > burned CD
> > at a fraction of the cost of either a dedicated hardware drum maching 
>or
> > a very expensive laptop*.
> >
> > Besides, with programs like Fruity Loops and the cool VST drum machines
(and
> > even REASON) you don't have to take a whole load of processing and
filtering
> > gear with you to a gig to get a sophisticated and 'breathing' drum 
>track
> > live.
> >
> > try it..............you'll like it.
> >
> > When I get back from my summer tour of Europe and the British Isles in
> > August, I'll
> > post a longer post on how to program more realistic drum computer
> > programming (even if you are an e-bow wielding ambient guitarist who is
> > rhythmicall challenged..........LOL!) using Fruity Loops if there is
enough
> > interest
> >
> > later,
> >
> > Rick Walker
> > www.looppool.info
> >
> >
> > *(and hey, while we are at it,  why does the laptop world lag so damned
far
> > behind the desktop computer world in the musical realm?   Inexpensive
> > stereo firewire solutions for live laptop recording are non-existent so
far,
> > though there is rumour of a $400 M-Audio stereo firewire box coming out
at
> > the end of March).
> >
> >
> >
>
>