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Yeah Man sorry my typing is ridiculously bad, as is my spelling! Yep Akai MPC2000xl and Mpc 2000 I have seen them for as little as £250 approx $350 They are simply wonderfully ergonomic and musically inspiring machines to use. Every musical friend who has seen me jamming with bands using mine wants ta buy one. When u see one in action u will dig it! Smacking out drum beats live on an MPC is great fun!!!!! u can even use drum sticks on the pads. G on 10/3/03 9:43 pm, bIz (looper) at bIz-looper@groovetronica.com wrote: > > Do you mean an mpc2000? > > Around here they are still going for ~$1,000 used. > > bIz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Smith" <geoff.smith15@btopenworld.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 3:56 AM > Subject: Re: CHEAP SOLUTION to Breakbeat creation for Live Looping was: > BREAKBEATS.................. > > >> Unless I'm wrong (don't have time to read everything) >> No one has mentioned the akai mdc2000 which can be picked up relatively >> cheaply second hand. >> This allows u to create drum loops or anything live. Simply put it into >> record metronome on use the phones output so u can hear the click, and >use >> the other 8 outputs for the drum samples. Only u hear the click then. >> U can change tracks mute tracks etc. as your going along by simply >leaving >> it in record mode and changing tracks. >> Its one of the best solutions I've used, would like to try the sequencer >> that that howie B uses though. >> >> Geoff >> >> >> on 10/3/03 5:26 am, Rick Walker/Loop.pooL at GLOBAL@cruzio.com wrote: >> >>> Viz a vis, a cheap solution to breakbeat creation for live looping: >>> >>> One really cool thing you can do (especially on a PC with the fabulous >>> FRUITY LOOPS PRO which, in my humble opinion is the best drum machine >in > the >>> world and just about to get way better........watch for next month's >>> COMPUTER MUSIC magazine from the UK for a cover article covering it) is > to >>> program really cool drumbeats on a home >>> computer and then burn them to a CD. >>> >>> Most mixing boards have stereo ins and it is really cheap to buy a > walkman >>> styled >>> portable CD player these days. >>> >>> You can either resample the grooves onto your sampler of just play to > the >>> tracks >>> (make sure that you have at least ten minutes per groove recorded so >you >>> don't run >>> out during a long performance) if you are not planning to either loop >or >>> retrigger. >>> >>> the degree of sophistication that you can get with a program like >Fruity >>> Loops Pro >>> is so much more vast and FAST!!!! than you can with a hardware drum > machine. >>> >>> also, unless you have midi syncability with an EDP, a REPEATER or an >old >>> JAMPERSON >>> you will have to rely on your own rhythmic sense for retriggering > anyway. >>> >>> a lot of people shy away from this approach but I find it can be very >>> effective in >>> a live performance to use prerecorded all original drum programming on >a >>> burned CD >>> at a fraction of the cost of either a dedicated hardware drum maching >or >>> a very expensive laptop*. >>> >>> Besides, with programs like Fruity Loops and the cool VST drum machines > (and >>> even REASON) you don't have to take a whole load of processing and > filtering >>> gear with you to a gig to get a sophisticated and 'breathing' drum >track >>> live. >>> >>> try it..............you'll like it. >>> >>> When I get back from my summer tour of Europe and the British Isles in >>> August, I'll >>> post a longer post on how to program more realistic drum computer >>> programming (even if you are an e-bow wielding ambient guitarist who is >>> rhythmicall challenged..........LOL!) using Fruity Loops if there is > enough >>> interest >>> >>> later, >>> >>> Rick Walker >>> www.looppool.info >>> >>> >>> *(and hey, while we are at it, why does the laptop world lag so damned > far >>> behind the desktop computer world in the musical realm? Inexpensive >>> stereo firewire solutions for live laptop recording are non-existent so > far, >>> though there is rumour of a $400 M-Audio stereo firewire box coming out > at >>> the end of March). >>> >>> >>> >> >> >