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All this is quite funny. i talk about stepping on a headrush the wrong way, in the dark by accident, and you guys get all complicated. hehe I know it's not original or special, it was funny. geez OK, i'll get complicated. i should have said the shortest manually created loop, with no EPD tricks. midi stuff or numbers and shit. OK what the longest loop anyone has created? heheh cam In delay mode and sus with some advanced midi controler (peavey PC1600x or digitech pmc 10) you can enter back to back note on / note off that give the smallest edp loop midi can give the you can increase the loop time by inserting null midi bytes (00) between note on note off all hex: 90 26 7f , 90 26 00 note on note off the smallest possible 90 26 7f 00 90 26 00 one 00 byte spacer 90 26 7f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 90 26 00 a loonger loop with more spacers I call that resonator mode Claude > At 05:40 PM 5/9/2003, Jesse Ray Lucas wrote: > >Well, as we learned from Kim and/or Matthias about the EDP, it shouldn't be > >able to make a loop shorter than 1.5ms, because that's the length of time it > >takes the software loop to cycle. Still, good luck hitting the Record > >button twice in 1.5ms. Maybe in SUS Record mode... > > yes, exactly. With SUS Record it is quite easy to get micro loops less than > 10ms long. Rather than holding the button down, just tap it. The loop will > be as long as the contacts in the switch touch each other, which is not > very long. You get loops short enough that the loop repeat rate is itself > an audible frequency. From there you can multiply them out, insert, > replace, overdub, etc. If you use the SUS modes of each of those fuctions, > you can again drop in micro sized fragments of sound and get a lot of > interesting glitchy loops out of it. (see Andre.) This is the granular loop > idea that was expanded into a whole set of features in the LoopIV upgrade > for the Echoplex. > > Another fun idea is to turn the feedback down, leave overdub on (or use > delay mode), and play an audio source through the echoplex. Drums work > well. Then tap the record to get micro-length delays for a comb-filter > effect. Each time you re-tap record the delay length will be slightly > different, giving a different pitch to the sound. Adjusting the feedback > changes the decay of it. Its a lot of fun to manipulate this stuff live. > > Sorry Cameron, you didn't invent anything new, or set any records! > > kim > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > >