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Hi Mark, Thanks for the reply. Yes, the songs have several passages. I want to be able to loop a given passage for improvisational purposes - trying to get away from the play to the cd thing. Each of these passages can be looped to extend the improv aspect. The passages are maybe 5-8 minutes, each. I compose on computer, so I guess I'm thinking in a linear way. The song is cued and begins. I've set loop points to loop passage B. I'm now in the middle of passage B and decide to stretch it out. I trigger the loop. The playback unit is ready to roll seamlessly in to the next passages as soon I decide to end the loop (I decide to end the loop midway thru the loop and the loop plays to the end and then the song continues into the next passage - just like on a computer system). What I hope to avoid is chopping all of the passages up. I don't even care to rearrange the passages (at the moment at least). Most of the posts seem to suggest having the looped passage on a different machine and somehow bringing that part into play when i'm ready to loop. What I don't understand is what happens to the remainder of the passages. Sounds very cumbersome and very iffy. Thanks! Michael At 10:52 PM 5/18/03 -0700, you wrote: >Off the original topic... I understand that a song can be 20 min, but >that doesn't mean you'd need a 20 min loop. Where I'm going here is >this: When does a loop get so long that it no longer appears to be a >loop? If you actually use the Repeater's 8 min loop limit, would >memory come into play? Not that it matters, as long as you get your >musical point across, but I'm having a hard time imagining exactly what >you're trying to do. If you're telling me that often the passages in >your songs are 8 min and you want them to repeat at different times in >the song, then I guess I get it. Is that what you're trying to do? >Not really loop, but record a passage and then play it back at >specific points in the song? > >Mark Sottilaro > >On Sunday, May 18, 2003, at 03:26 PM, Michael Clark wrote: > >> Hi Mark, >> >> I have a repeater. Many of my songs are 10 to 20 minutes with a >> number of >> different passages. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Michael >> >> At 11:42 AM 5/18/03 -0700, you wrote: >>> Silly question, but have you tried the Repeater? It will do up to 8 >>> min loop (max loop = 99) and it's fully midi controllable, syncable >>> and >>> a whole lot more. >>> >>> Mark Sottilaro >>> >>> On Sunday, May 18, 2003, at 12:25 PM, Michael Clark wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm very accustomed to working with a variety of software programs. >>>>>> Maybe >>>>>> the hardware world - for this type of application - hasn't really >>>>>> caught >>>>>> up, or functions very differently. >>> >>> >> > >