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Michael I've have been using sonar for a while, and as far as I know it has no live performance capabilities that would cater for what you are trying to do. however, a couple of packages come to mind that may be able to help you and these are: albeton live where you can create several groups of loops and cue them in a the right point, so you can do the verse/chorus thing and then extend each section to improvise over. The other is cakewalks project 5 that has just been released to rave reviews and has been designed as a live performance tool. The other is reaktor which I use for improvisations, where you can chain sequencies together with another sequencer which can be altered in realtime with the minimum amount of fuss. I have also started to use reaktor with my guitar to create live loops. The only downside with Reaktor is that is takes a while to get your head around it (but there are plenty of people on their website doing that for you) all you need for this is a fairly decent laptop (1ghz or above) and a soundcard that supports WDM or ASIO I hope that I understood what you are trying to achieve and that this was useful Cheers OJ www.thejupiter8.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael Clark [mailto:mcl451@airmail.net] Sent: 19 May 2003 15:55 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Performance Hardware Looping Equipment Question - Need Help Hi Mark, Thanks for the reply. Yes, the songs have several passages. I want to be able to loop a given passage for improvisational purposes - trying to get away from the play to the cd thing. Each of these passages can be looped to extend the improv aspect. The passages are maybe 5-8 minutes, each. I compose on computer, so I guess I'm thinking in a linear way. The song is cued and begins. I've set loop points to loop passage B. I'm now in the middle of passage B and decide to stretch it out. I trigger the loop. The playback unit is ready to roll seamlessly in to the next passages as soon I decide to end the loop (I decide to end the loop midway thru the loop and the loop plays to the end and then the song continues into the next passage - just like on a computer system). What I hope to avoid is chopping all of the passages up. I don't even care to rearrange the passages (at the moment at least). Most of the posts seem to suggest having the looped passage on a different machine and somehow bringing that part into play when i'm ready to loop. What I don't understand is what happens to the remainder of the passages. Sounds very cumbersome and very iffy. Thanks! Michael At 10:52 PM 5/18/03 -0700, you wrote: >Off the original topic... I understand that a song can be 20 min, but >that doesn't mean you'd need a 20 min loop. Where I'm going here is >this: When does a loop get so long that it no longer appears to be a >loop? If you actually use the Repeater's 8 min loop limit, would >memory come into play? Not that it matters, as long as you get your >musical point across, but I'm having a hard time imagining exactly what >you're trying to do. If you're telling me that often the passages in >your songs are 8 min and you want them to repeat at different times in >the song, then I guess I get it. Is that what you're trying to do? >Not really loop, but record a passage and then play it back at >specific points in the song? > >Mark Sottilaro > >On Sunday, May 18, 2003, at 03:26 PM, Michael Clark wrote: > >> Hi Mark, >> >> I have a repeater. Many of my songs are 10 to 20 minutes with a >> number of >> different passages. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Michael >> >> At 11:42 AM 5/18/03 -0700, you wrote: >>> Silly question, but have you tried the Repeater? It will do up to 8 >>> min loop (max loop = 99) and it's fully midi controllable, syncable >>> and >>> a whole lot more. >>> >>> Mark Sottilaro >>> >>> On Sunday, May 18, 2003, at 12:25 PM, Michael Clark wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm very accustomed to working with a variety of software programs. >>>>>> Maybe >>>>>> the hardware world - for this type of application - hasn't really >>>>>> caught >>>>>> up, or functions very differently. >>> >>> >> > >