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I can't get it to stay in sync at all for any length of time. I tried having the echoplex out to the DR670 in and then tried reversing it with the DR670 out to the Echoplex in. (I have quantize on and set to LOP, 8th cycle is set to 8, and sync is set to out, switch quant is off.I set the tempo to 140.) Using the echoplex out to the DR670 in the echoplex goes a whole bar before it even turns the drum machine on. I want it to start the drum machine when I hit record. Or better yet it would be nice to be able to start the drum machine and then be able to hit record whenever I wanted to start the echoplex. It stays in sync as long as I don't hit any buttons except overdub. If I hit reverse it is totally out of sync when I hit reverse to go back to forward again. If I hit half speed it is out of sync when I go back to normal speed. I tried setting the half speed button to a parameter with double the value of everything else and it did keep the drum machine at the same speed when I hit half speed but, If I hit half speed again later to return it to normal speed, the drum machine doubles it's speed. It is also out of sync. If there is a clear explanation in the loop IV manual of how to make the echoplex work in time with a drum machine I can't find it. Can someone walk me through this, leaving nothing out. I heard there is a new (300 page?) manual. Is there a pdf of it anywhere? Are any of you out there able to use all of the functions in the echoplex and keep a drum machine going steady and in time for 10 minutes without drifting, and without going schizoid when you hit any button besides overdub? It's a good thing I didn't try using a drum machine with the echoplex when I first got it or it would have gone straight back to Guitar Center. Another couple of nights like tonight and it may end up on e-bay. Terry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com