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Hah, perhaps given the old image of the rock star persona, that's just wishful thinking in the male contingient here! :) > lol! Maybe looping just MAKES people suck! lollollol! > > Smiles, > > Cara > > At 07:13 PM 6/27/03 -0400, you wrote: > > > >"" then when he/ she uses looping devices, they will probably suck on many > >layers of sound simultaneously. And the sucking will become exponential. > > > > > > > > Speaking personally, looping devices enable me express my sense of > >composition and style of performance in much greater depth than if I am > >limited to a single layer of sound. > > > > I will say this, I tend now to practice less and play/ live compose more, > >but I think it's made me a much stronger musician overall. > > > > > > dan > > > > > > -- > > ghost 7/ Oranje > > http://envelopeproductions.com > > d.ans@rcn.com > > > > website redesign coming soon with more solo bass music > > > > > > > > > > on 6/27/03 10:49 AM, Greg House at ghunicycle@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > >><> wrote: > >>>>> David Torn's looping CDs are good to me because he > >>>>> can actually play the guitar great and is not > >>>>> using looping as a cover up for an inability to > >>>>> play well (as is sometimes the case). > >> > >><>): > >>>> Definitely in my case. Is that a problem? > >> > >> Then Terry followed up with: > >> > >>> No, Brian Eno created some wonderful music and he > >>> claimed to be a non- musician. I though the music he > >>> created was very musical. > >>> > >>> I just like David Torn's CDs because he plays guitar > >>> really well. > >> > >> That's cool, thanks for the distinction. I was also thinking about that, > >>and came > >> to the conclusion that skill does not necessarily equal musicality. I > >>know people > >> who have very little musical skill, or even technical knowledge, who > produce > >> wonderful music. Now, the combination of a high degree of skill WITH > >>outstanding > >> musicality can produce some amazing results (as you note about David Torn). > >> > >> Now to turn the discussion a little bit, I've been thinking about this > >>concept > >> for a day or two now, the idea that we would use loopers to cover up the > >>fact > >> that we are poor instrumentalists. > >> > >> I'm wondering if that's really possible. When I loop, the results are > >>not any > >> better then when I play without looping. In fact, it can be worse if I'm > >>having a > >> bad day or something, simply because there are more layers of my suckage > >>to hear > >> at the same time. Looping has challenged me as a musician in a way >that > >>solo and > >> ensemble playing haven't. For me, making good music while looping >seems > more > >> difficult, in a way, since I need to be more careful. > >> > >> ...but it's also easier and more enjoyable from another perspective, > >>since I tend > >> to respond to sounds and textures I'm hearing. When I play alone, I > >>don't hear > >> those, so my playing can often be stale. If I can create some interesting > >> textures in the loops, which I can then respond to, the solo > >>improvisations are > >> more > >> > >> It's just the way the musical part of my mind works. I've never been > good at > >> remembering specific parts, playing the same thing consistantly every > >>time a song > >> is done. I tend to respond out of how I'm feeling at the moment, what > >>else I'm > >> hearing in the music, what color the lights are, and all that. I'm not a > >> playactor, where the performance is the same every night. This also > >>leaves me > >> subject to a lot of stuff I don't have much control over, and my playing is > >> therefore very inconsistant. On a good day, I like what I do, on a bad > >>day...it's > >> indescribably hideous. I'm sure this all relates back to a lack of solid > >>musical > >> education, a lack of personal discipline in practice, an incoherency >in > >>the way I > >> think, and probably many other personal flaws. However, for whatever > >>failings it > >> demonstrates in me, the fact remains that this -is- how I am >presently. > >>Looping > >> helps inspire me in a positive way, that's why I do it. > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> __________________________________ > >> Do you Yahoo!? > >> SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > >> http://sbc.yahoo.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > --- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > -Then, anything is possible..." > > http://home.earthlink.net/~thefates > > Please visit BadFiction and The Guitar Cafe. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/badfiction > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-guitar-cafe > > > > > >