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Don, > That's fine if you don't want to join. It's not so much that I don't want to join. I just don't see the point of making a separate list about the Boomerang. The 'rang is a fine piece of kit, but I just don't think anything can be said about it that is not generally relevant to all loopers. It is, after all, the simplest and most straightforward of all the dedicated loopers. What is there to be said about it that can't be said on this list? I'm all ears if anyone has any good tips 'n' tricks about the 'rang; undocumented features, or how to convert it into an EDP with two bent paper clips and a roll of tinfoil. However, I'm not holding my breath. I've scoured the archives of this list and haven't found anything much of interest about the 'rang other than it pretty much works as advertised and is a good solid product. Don't get me wrong: I love my 'rang, and would love to see more discussion about it, but I don't see what purpose it would serve to split that discussion onto another list. It would just make both lists less valuable for all of us. -- Ian Petersen