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Re: Looping with other musicians, new tools=new results



I'm wondering if anyone on list has used one of those "Russian Dragon" devices that generated some kind of clock (midi?) from a live drummer's playing... any interesting observations/experiences?

Tim



In a message dated 8/30/03 11:41:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, schnack@mailbolt.com writes:

Just because everyone's supposed to doesn't mean they actually do it :) 
Actually it's not so much about everybody keeping time for themselves,
rather working as a unit to keep the tempo instead of depending on one
person.  Because if that one person rushes, everybody else rushes with him,
and it sounds bad (unless that is what the music requires, of course).  I'm
reminded of an ensembe class I had; on one song the drummer took a solo
while the rest of the band kept a riff going...everybody else felt like the
rug had been swept from under their feet and suddenly I became the
"metronome". Only they were looking at my fingers instead of listening. Oy
vey...

If all the musicians are really good, and everybody else in the band can
hear the loop clearly, then there probably shouldn't be a problem.  If the
drummer has an urge to rush or whatever, the rest of the musicians will
hold him in place.  But if the drummer is used to being a "band metronome",
then there will probably be problems.

Aside from that, there is simply the fact that ideally you want everybody
to hear the loop clearly.  After all, it is basically another instrument in
the band.  More often than not, drummers don't get a proper monitoring
system, and can't hear the whole band.

Ernesto

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:49:42 -0700, Travis <tiktok@sprintmail.com> wrote:

>If everyone's supposed to be keeping time for themselves, why is it so
>particularly important for the drummer to be able to hear the loop?
>
>TravisH
>
>On Saturday, August 30, 2003, at 09:30 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-
>request@loopers-delight.com wrote:
>
>>Subject: Re: Looping with other musicians, new tools=new results
>>
>>


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