RE: new lingo

["Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de>]

Actually, following Fripp's guitar craft (and other) writings, this trying
to avoid musical "phrases de toutes les jours" was the main reason for the
creation of the new standard tuning for guitar.

        Rainer

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Greenstein [mailto:paul@ubiq.co.uk]
> Sent: Montag, 20. Oktober 2003 17:32
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: new lingo
>
>
> Perhaps there is a musical analogue to this - improvising musicians
> often tend to unconsciously fall back on repetitive patterns (nothing
> to do with looping), which are 'tried and tested' i.e. confortable
> idioms, riffs, chord structures etc. I would suggest that this is the
> musical equivalent of verbal filler - phrases like 'now what I mean',
> and another one which I've noticed recently in UK 'yeh, no'
> preceding a
> statement...
>
> I went to see Robert Fripp play at the Purcell Rooms in London a few
> years back. He was playing for free in the foyer, so I went
> for 2 days
> running. The thing that hit me most was that he managed to almost
> completely avoid the standard riffing and cliche that is so much part
> of a musicians language. He did start playing what could loosely be
> called a standard 'guitar solo' over one loop, but it was a momentary
> lapse. It takes a lot of  discipline to avoid this kind of
> stuff, both
> verbally and musically.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 04:07  pm, Aptrev@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > In a message dated 10/20/03 2:26:10 AM, spgoodman@earthlight.net
> > writes:
> >
> > << Anyway!  Ya know what I'm sayin'?  Okay. >>
> >
> > In a way, these are like loops eh? A word like ok or anyway after
> > every other
> > sentence would be sort of like a "glitch" loop.
> > Rhythmic iterative patterns perform a linking function that
> are part
> > of an
> > individual's sense of flow. Partly it may be a fear of using
> > pause/silence for
> > emphasis, so the repeated words are there for continuity and
> > sustaining the
> > thought constructs as well as "holding the floor".
> >
> > There is an artist who is using software to remove language from
> > speech so
> > that you can hear what is between the words : sighs,
> clicks, rumbles
> > etc. These
> > also appear in repetitive looping patterns. I don't have
> the url handy
> > but it
> > is called Language Removal Services and there are audio clips, a
> > search at
> > www.npr.org or google should bring it up.
> >
> > BobC
> >
> > visit: www.cdbaby.com/rpcollier
> >
> >
> >
> > The Thumb Piano Project
> > www.mp3.com/thumbpianoproject
> > http://trundlebox.iuma.com
> > http://brokenaxe.iuma.com
> >
> >
>