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If you want an example of how the EDP is a deeper tool than the Repeater, listen to Andre LaFosse http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP/muso.html Here's a quote: "By throwing a semi-haphazard series of musical events at the EDP, and by using various EDP functions to further randomize and tweak those events, it becomes a very different sort of process for me: less a case of dealing with static repetitions of an idea I've already played, and more of a dialogue with a seperate musical entity. Hearing an initial idea re-contextualized in such a manner is a very liberating thing, because one of the fundamental challenges of any composition or improvisation is, "Where do I start? Out of all of the possible that could happen right now, what should I do?" Having the EDP spit an unexpected slab of sound back at me is a very immediate and inspiring way of answering that question: "HERE'S where I can start. And here are some possibilities that I never would have thought to play (or been able to play in the first place!) if I hadn't stomped on the Insert button a few dozen times, or flipped the loop into Half Speed, or semi-randomly hit Remultiply and SUS-Insert..." Microscopic subtleties of rhythm, timing, and texture which would be invisible on first glance can become themes and motifs. Multiple fragments of "random" sounds become compositional sections which can be expanded, developed, and juxtaposed in relation to one another. Quantization settings can take haphazard events and impose an unexpected structure onto them. For me, once some raw musical material has been reflected back in such a (highly fractured) manner, it can be much easier to decide what to do with it all in the first place. It might be argued that approaching an entire performance as a series of improvisations is a hazardous proposition. Fair enough... but it also seems to me that the strength of a performance can rise or fall on the basis of countless variables that come into play. It's entirely possible to present a set of entirely pre-composed material, executed proficiently, and still have wildly varying results from one performance to the next, for both the audience and the performer. For myself and my own music making, improvisational looping seems to embrace the fundamental chance, uncertainty, and spontenaity at the root of ALL musical performance, to find ways of working WITH it, rather than struggling against it. " ***I have to say that the delay of the dry signal on the Repeater turned me off but that it has a very clear sound and that if you already have one, it's not a bad thing to just invest your time in that--time is very useful in this regard--but the EDP rules and Andre demonstrates that handily on his website--enjoy-- Gary Lehmann -----Original Message----- From: Paul Greenstein [mailto:paul@ubiq.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:46 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: evangelize EDP please OK, I get the picture, but I'm trying to clarify what the EDP does that the Repeater doesn't... Paul On Wednesday, October 29, 2003, at 02:53 pm, Claude Voit wrote: > I have 3 > Claude > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Greenstein" <paul@ubiq.co.uk> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:18 PM > Subject: evangelize EDP please > > >> Assuming that some people are using both the EDP and Repeater, can >> someone evangelize a bit about the EDP for me? - or maybe make a few >> comparisons... >> >> I'm tempted to buy an EDP (if I can find one), but as I already use >> the >> Repeater, I'm having difficulty justifying it as opposed to buying a >> new guitar or whatever... >> >> Paul >> > >